[GNC] Reconciliation Changes

[David Carlson]

Sub accounts under the same bank account are not the same as transfer s to
outside accounts.

If I recall correctly, they must be of the same type as the parent
account.  I think that should still work as before in reconciliations.
Were you able to import your table of accounts from an old file or did you
start over, possibly different somehow this time?



On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 7:18 PM Lisa Reynoso <mrs.reynoso at gmail.com> wrote:

> Okay, first, I don’t know what version I had before. It was about 2 years
> ago that I downloaded it, and my hard drive was wiped, so I have no idea.
>
> Second, you completely misunderstood my problem. I understand the
> reconciliation process intricately; I’ve been using it for a decade and a
> half. I understand about clicking the “include sub accounts” box; it’s the
> sub account feature that turned me on to the program, since I was doing
> that on paper as my mother did; a computer was so much faster, since it did
> most of the math for me. I like math, but it gets tedious entering numbers
> in a calculator. But I digress.
>
> There are two basic examples to illustrate. I have a checking account,
> divided into various sub accounts, such as gas, groceries, clothing, school
> bill, etc. When I deposit a paycheck, I split the deposit into various
> accounts. Likewise when i purchase both food and toothpaste at the grocery
> store; toothpaste doesn’t come from the food budget. When I want to
> reconcile the checking, I used to be able to check one of those splits and
> have them all highlight. So if I checked the toothpaste transaction, the
> grocery charge would check as well. Of course the expense account wouldn’t
> reconcile; I wasn’t referring to that.
>
> But the other example is when I transfer money within the checking account
> from one sub account to another. Like my original gas to groceries (or vice
> versa) analogy. In that case, when I would check the credit, the debit
> would check automatically as well, and the balance on the reconciliation
> would not change, because no money actually entered or left the checking.
> It was just moved around within it. Now I have to check one and then scroll
> down to find the other. I make several dozen of these transactions every
> month, and it is tedious to have to check them both.
>
> I downloaded version 4.4 when this problem first made itself felt. I
> downloaded 3.11 today, and it still doesn’t do what it used to. I have
> Windows 10; I don’t know if an earlier version will work or not.
>
> Lisa
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 12, 2021, at 2:09 PM, davidcousens49 at gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> > It may help if you can tell us what the previous version was and which
> version
> > you have now upgraded to.
> >
> > On the reconciliation setup dialog under the Ending Balance entry there
> is a
> > checkbox "Include subaccounts" which AFAIK by default is not checked. Try
> > selecting that when starting the reconciliation and see if that restores
> some of
> > the functionality you are used to. As far as I can tell once you have
> selected
> > that option in the dialog for a given account it remains in force for
> subsequent
> > reconciliations until you unselect it again but I am not completely sure
> how
> > sticky that option is and whether it does set a flag in the account
> structure.
> >
> > Any reconciliation process only acts on a single account and as such
> only marks
> > the splits of a transaction into that that account. You do not reconcile
> a whole
> > transaction unless you have individually reconciled  all accounts that
> the
> > transaction has splits to. Splits to an account which has not been
> reconciled
> > will generally be marked with a "n" ( and maybe a "c" in some cases) and
> splits
> > to a reconciled account with a "y". If a previous version of GNuCash did
> do this
> > then that behaviour was incorrect. I have been using GnuCash for a
> similar
> > period of time and I can't recall any version in which a whole
> transaction not
> > just the split was reconciled.
> >
> > David Cousens
> >
> >> On Tue, 2021-10-12 at 12:29 -0700, Lisa Reynoso wrote:
> >> I've used GNU cash for years. Like, over 15 years. I used it before I
> was
> >> married, so it's definitely been more than 15 years.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I never upgrade except when I get a new computer, and then I
> >> install whatever is the latest, and transfer the files from the old
> version
> >> (or in my most recent case, I just started over, because the computer
> >> reformatted without my permission--yeah, that was a nightmare!). When
> this
> >> latest install happened, something had changed about how the
> reconciliation
> >> works. Always before when I had a transfer from one subaccount within an
> >> account to another, or if it was a split transaction, when I would check
> >> one box in the reconciliation window, all boxes pertaining to that
> >> transaction would check. For example, suppose I had extra gas money at
> the
> >> end of the month, but had overspent my grocery fund. I could transfer
> from
> >> the gas to the grocery subaccounts, and when I reconciled, I could check
> >> one box and it would mark them on both the credit and debit sides,
> without
> >> me having to hunt for the opposite transaction. Likewise, when I
> deposit a
> >> check, I usually divide it among various accounts, and all I had to do
> was
> >> click one of the subaccount deposits, and all the other deposits from
> the
> >> same check would be marked as well. Now, that's not the case. And I
> can't
> >> find an old enough version for Windows 10 that does that anymore. Anyone
> >> have any ideas? It now takes almost twice as long for me to reconcile,
> >> since I have a lot of subaccounts and do a lot of internal transferring
> >> within my checking account that doesn't show up on my bank statement.
> >> Having to look for the parallel transactions or figuring out which split
> >> transactions go together takes more time. I'm almost ready to try to
> find
> >> some other software, but I've used this for so long I really don't want
> to
> >> switch.
> >>
> >> Lisa
> >>
> >
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