[GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 1

James Baxter kangaroo52 at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 1 19:43:37 EDT 2022


I am James Baxter, email kangaroo52 at yahoo.com. 
I did not down load cinnamon desktop. As I have heard of it. Don’t know what it does.
Thanks for the items you send. Looking to learn more about linux and Gnucash as well.

Thanks
James

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>   1. Re:  Find (Stan Brown)
>   2. Re:  computer with Linux (davidcousens49 at gmail.com)
>   3. Re:  computer with Linux (Adrien Monteleone)
>   4. Re:  Symbolic links (MacOSX) (Peter S. Shenkin)
>   5. Re:  computer with Linux (davidcousens49 at gmail.com)
>   6. Re:  Find (Alan Magnus)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 13:36:10 -0700
> From: Stan Brown <the_stan_brown at fastmail.fm>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Find
> Message-ID: <e5258ca6-f3ea-8cb0-bf72-10397d9acc46 at fastmail.fm>
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>>> On 7/31/22 7:51 AM, Stan Brown wrote:
>>> If you are anywhere in the account tree on the Accounts tab and just
>>> start typing, it will take you to the matching account.
> 
>> On 2022-07-31 12:19, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>> That only works for me if that part of the tree is already expanded. I
>> tested this myself before sending my initial reply because it was my
>> first thought to try.
> 
> Thanks for the information. My accounts list is fully expanded, so I
> didn't realize that made a difference.
> 
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2022 08:44:35 +1000
> From: davidcousens49 at gmail.com
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] computer with Linux
> Message-ID: <2f304e08f30b6b13bca2393be59a0a56bd94a58e.camel at gmail.com>
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> James,
> 
> I presume you downloaded Linux Mint 20.3. Did you choose the Cinnamon desktop or
> one of the pther options? 
> 
> There are several options on Linux Mint to get GnuCash installed. The version
> supplied by the Software Manager is 2.2.9 which is well out of date with the
> current version 4.11. If you haven't found it yet, the Software Manager is
> started from the Menu icon in the lower LH corner of the desktop. It has an icon
> which is a lime green circle filed with an array of dots in a rounded square
> icon. Typing GnuCash in the Search bar will bring up the instalation for both
> the version in the repository and the Flathub version. This is also the version
> of GNuCash installed when you use the "sudo apt install gnucash" terminal
> command. If you do use the terminal command it is usualy a good idea to run
> "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt upgrade" as a matter of course. This will ensure
> the  apt cache is up to date on your computer before you do the install.
> 
> There is also an option to install a Flathub version of GNuCash in the software
> manager and that will install the current version 4.11. Flathub is a sandbox
> system which sometimes requires appropriate permissions to access the system
> resource but should run without any problem. If you do have problems come back
> to the mailing list. AFAIK the Flathub version is the same as the download of
> the Flathub version from the GnuCashsite.
> 
> 
> 
> The final option is to build GnuCash from the source code if you are familiar
> with building software on computers and like to stay up with the latest version
> at all times. There are instructions on the Gnucash wiki 
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Linux
> 
> 
> Davis Cousens
>> On Sun, 2022-07-31 at 18:27 +0000, James Baxter via gnucash-user wrote:
>> I have a 15 year old laptop computer. it has Linux Mint. i just down load it
>> about 3 weeks ago.I am looking to down load Gnucash, as i am not able to. I
>> have been through all the items to do with Gnucash, as i don't see a think on
>> the type of computers.
>> thanks
>> 
>> My Name is James Baxter. my email address is kangaroo52 at yahoo.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 20:59:03 -0500
> From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
> To: gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] computer with Linux
> Message-ID: <tc7c17$7nh$1 at ciao.gmane.io>
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> David, I just checked a VM of Mint 20.3 I have and the GnuCash version 
> is 3.8, not 2.2.9. Mint 20.x appears to be based on Ubuntu Focal. (20.04)
> 
> Still, yes, 3.8 is quite aged, but not as ancient as 2.2.9.
> 
> Mint 21 Vanessa was released and I see it has 4.8 in its repo. (based on 
> upstream Ubuntu 22.04, so presumably that's what Ubuntu Jammy users get 
> too, though I haven't checked)
> 
> That's much more reasonably 'recent' if someone doesn't want to tread 
> the Flatpak waters. Though, since it is so easy to install, I'd 
> recommend that route too.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On 7/31/22 5:44 PM, davidcousens49 at gmail.com wrote:
>> James,
>> 
>> I presume you downloaded Linux Mint 20.3. Did you choose the Cinnamon desktop or
>> one of the pther options?
>> 
>> There are several options on Linux Mint to get GnuCash installed. The version
>> supplied by the Software Manager is 2.2.9 which is well out of date with the
>> current version 4.11. If you haven't found it yet, the Software Manager is
>> started from the Menu icon in the lower LH corner of the desktop. It has an icon
>> which is a lime green circle filed with an array of dots in a rounded square
>> icon. Typing GnuCash in the Search bar will bring up the instalation for both
>> the version in the repository and the Flathub version. This is also the version
>> of GNuCash installed when you use the "sudo apt install gnucash" terminal
>> command. If you do use the terminal command it is usualy a good idea to run
>> "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt upgrade" as a matter of course. This will ensure
>> the  apt cache is up to date on your computer before you do the install.
>> 
>> There is also an option to install a Flathub version of GNuCash in the software
>> manager and that will install the current version 4.11. Flathub is a sandbox
>> system which sometimes requires appropriate permissions to access the system
>> resource but should run without any problem. If you do have problems come back
>> to the mailing list. AFAIK the Flathub version is the same as the download of
>> the Flathub version from the GnuCashsite.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The final option is to build GnuCash from the source code if you are familiar
>> with building software on computers and like to stay up with the latest version
>> at all times. There are instructions on the Gnucash wiki
>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Linux
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 22:00:04 -0400
> From: "Peter S. Shenkin" <shenkin at gmail.com>
> To: john <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> Cc: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Symbolic links (MacOSX)
> Message-ID:
>    <CAAsqebHYuv_V19x=t7SE-GVwaKC2wi_CxyS+QtmesWE6Gus4Kg at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> Thanks. My symlink works; I can cd into the tree via the symlink in a
> terminal session, open files in the through it, etc.
> 
> Thanks for your response anyway. I'm just going to keep using Gnucash from
> the copy I made.
> 
> -P.
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 11:55 AM john <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 23, 2022, at 10:38 AM, Peter S. Shenkin <shenkin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'm getting back to gnucash after a long hiatus. I'm also starting up
>> using
>>> Gnucash on a different computer. So I copied the Gnucash directory to
>>> ~/Documents/work/Foo/ on the new computer. (The name Foo was changed to
>>> protect the innocent. Or is it the guilty?)
>>> 
>>> Gnucash had been in ~/work/Foo on the old computer, so set up a symbolic
>>> link in ~/work called Foo pointing to ~/Documents/work/Foo. To my
>> surprise,
>>> I got a msg that Gnucash couldn't parse the URL, and another, after
>>> dismissing that dialog, that Gnucash could not open the file.
>>> 
>>> Eventually, as kind of a Hail-Mary pass, I replaced the symlink with an
>>> actual copy (cp -pR) of the Foo directory from ~/Documents/work to
>> ~/work,
>>> and then Gnucash could read it.
>>> 
>>> This struck me as extremely bizarre. I have two questions.
>>> 
>>>  - Can Gnucash really not read through symlinks on MacOS?
>>>     - Note that my Privacy settings allow Gnucash to read the
>> ~/Documents
>>>     directory, to which the symlink points.
>>>     - In retrospect, I guess I should have tried using a MacOS "alias"
>>>     instead of a symlink, but I don't know if that would have worked
>>> any better.
>>>     - There is nothing in Privacy to specify that Gnucash can read ~ or
>>>     ~/work, but apparently this is not needed.
>>>  - Suppose I now want to tell Gnucash to use the data in
>>>  ~/Documents/Foo/Gnucash. Is there a way for me to do this without
>> losing my
>>>  history? (Or my sanity?)
>> 
>> I just tested a regular symlink and an alias. GnuCash had no trouble
>> opening a file through the symlink using File/Open or subsequently
>> reopening the file on launch. Perhaps you misspelled something when you
>> made the symlink.
>> 
>> Navigating through macOS alias files requires opening files through
>> CFURL.  boost::filesystem doesn't know how to do that so neither does
>> GnuCash. FWIW bash and zsh don't either.
>> 
>> GnuCash has access to Documents, Downloads, Desktop, and Network drives in
>> System Settings>Privacy & Security>Files and Folders (I'm running macOS 13
>> developer beta on this mac). It does not have full disk access.
>> 
>> I suppose that the history you have in mind is the list of most recently
>> used files at the bottom of the File menu. The simplest way to migrate to
>> the new directory is to use File>Open  to open each in turn ***bottom to
>> top***.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Rals
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2022 14:43:01 +1000
> From: davidcousens49 at gmail.com
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] computer with Linux
> Message-ID: <324ed9aa4589933f3da6e97d6ad4b9258873756d.camel at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> Thanks Adrien,
> 
> The Software Manager has an image which had 2.2.9 on it. I didn't scroll down to
> the details, just assumed the image was of the installed version - my bad.
> 
> apt-cache policy gnucash 
> also lists it as 3.8 the same package as the Ubuntu archive.
> 
> I hadn't realized LM 21 was out. I only checked a couple of weeks ago. 
> 
> David 
> 
>> On Sun, 2022-07-31 at 20:59 -0500, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>> David, I just checked a VM of Mint 20.3 I have and the GnuCash version 
>> is 3.8, not 2.2.9. Mint 20.x appears to be based on Ubuntu Focal. (20.04)
>> 
>> Still, yes, 3.8 is quite aged, but not as ancient as 2.2.9.
>> 
>> Mint 21 Vanessa was released and I see it has 4.8 in its repo. (based on 
>> upstream Ubuntu 22.04, so presumably that's what Ubuntu Jammy users get 
>> too, though I haven't checked)
>> 
>> That's much more reasonably 'recent' if someone doesn't want to tread 
>> the Flatpak waters. Though, since it is so easy to install, I'd 
>> recommend that route too.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On 7/31/22 5:44 PM, davidcousens49 at gmail.com wrote:
>>> James,
>>> 
>>> I presume you downloaded Linux Mint 20.3. Did you choose the Cinnamon
>>> desktop or
>>> one of the pther options?
>>> 
>>> There are several options on Linux Mint to get GnuCash installed. The
>>> version
>>> supplied by the Software Manager is 2.2.9 which is well out of date with the
>>> current version 4.11. If you haven't found it yet, the Software Manager is
>>> started from the Menu icon in the lower LH corner of the desktop. It has an
>>> icon
>>> which is a lime green circle filed with an array of dots in a rounded square
>>> icon. Typing GnuCash in the Search bar will bring up the instalation for
>>> both
>>> the version in the repository and the Flathub version. This is also the
>>> version
>>> of GNuCash installed when you use the "sudo apt install gnucash" terminal
>>> command. If you do use the terminal command it is usualy a good idea to run
>>> "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt upgrade" as a matter of course. This will
>>> ensure
>>> the  apt cache is up to date on your computer before you do the install.
>>> 
>>> There is also an option to install a Flathub version of GNuCash in the
>>> software
>>> manager and that will install the current version 4.11. Flathub is a sandbox
>>> system which sometimes requires appropriate permissions to access the system
>>> resource but should run without any problem. If you do have problems come
>>> back
>>> to the mailing list. AFAIK the Flathub version is the same as the download
>>> of
>>> the Flathub version from the GnuCashsite.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The final option is to build GnuCash from the source code if you are
>>> familiar
>>> with building software on computers and like to stay up with the latest
>>> version
>>> at all times. There are instructions on the Gnucash wiki
>>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Linux
>> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 11:40:47 -0500
> From: Alan Magnus <alanmagnus at icloud.com>
> To: john <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> Cc: Alan Magnus <alanmagnus at mac.com>, Mailing List Gnucash
>    <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Find
> Message-ID: <D2FACD55-FD0E-43AB-A0EB-03C2F7613DEC at icloud.com>
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> 
> Edit>Find Account??
> 
> Sent from my iPhone XS
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2022, at 11:47 AM, john <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
>> 
>> ?No, Edit>Find is not an option for finding an account, nor is it a bug. Read the dialog's title.
>> 
>> Regasrds,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 29, 2022, at 1:17 PM, Alan Magnus via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What version of GnuCash and on what operating system?
>>> 
>>> I am using Gnucash 11.1 on Mac OS13
>>> 
>>> The account does appear I the account Tree but it was quicker to find it using the Find Account feature.
>>> 
>>> Another option is *from the Accounts tab* use Edit >Find (the plain one, not Find Account) to search for transactions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This does not bring up a list of accounts.
>>> There are transactions in the account.
>>> I think its a bug.
>>>>> On 28 Jul 2022, at 11:45 am, Alan Magnus via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Somehow Find has stopped working for me. When I select Fins Account from the Edit list and type in the Account name it is not found. Any suggestions?
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