[GNC] reconcile problem?

[David Carlson]

A couple of other issues that could make GnuCash appear to be flakey when
it is just eccentric are as follows:

One, while editing certain fields in a transaction that already contains
one or more split lines that are already reconciled, GnuCash may
unreconcile one or more of those reconciled splits.  The specific details
of that behavior was changed a couple of times over several releases in the
3.x and 4.x series'.

Two, the first time GnuCash tries to do that it warns you and gives you an
opportunity to change your mind, but it is very easy to click on the button
to never remind me again about this.  Then, if you forget to go to Actions
> Reset Warnings to get the warnings back, it is even easier to shoot
yourself in the foot.

Last night I tested my skill at fixing a reconciliation error a few months
earlier and I noted that GnuCash will give 'incorrect' values for the
reconciliation if there are any 'future' [after the reconciliation date]
non-zero value transactions that have already been reconciled.  In a way,
this is a test for that sort of error.

There is a third possible issue that can create a 'future' reconciled
transaction.  If a transaction was reconciled while it resided in account
'A', and subsequently was edited to reside in account 'B', GnuCash may not
give the proper warning and un-reconcile that split line.  I think this
only happens in older releases.

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 9:34 AM Paul Kinzelman <paul at kinzelman.com> wrote:

> That's a good question and I think that could be an explanation
> for the resurrection of the reconciled transactions which happened
> quite awhile ago when I was new to GC.
>
> But that doesn't explain how a transaction could become
> reconciled on its own like the one that happened this month, which
> tipped me over the edge to post about it.
>
> On 2/23/2022 8:29 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> > Are you possibly opening up a backup file when you start GnuCash?
> >
> > -derek
> >
> > On Wed, February 23, 2022 10:23 am, Paul Kinzelman wrote:
> >> The latter is certainly possible, but it's strange that this started
> with
> >> gnucash, didn't happen with Quicken. But if nobody else has noticed
> >> this, then maybe it is the latter. :-)
> >>
> >> And I have NEVER connected it to my account, as you suggested,
> >> I ALWAYS enter everything by hand.
> >>
> >> Oh, and I'm using the Windows latest version.
> >>
> >> A while ago, I remember seeing a number of transactions which were
> >> marked as reconciled become unreconciled as well, and it balanced after
> >> I checked them as reconciled again the next month.
> >>
> >> The real kicker was the one item I noticed that came up reconciled
> >> this month as tho I had done it last month. And I couldn't have done it
> >> last month or else it would have been unbalanced. And the charge
> >> was not on last month's statement.
> >>
> >> But if nobody else has seen anything like this, maybe it is something
> >> I'm doing. But it's strange that I never saw it with Quicken, thus my
> >> post.
> >>
> >> On 2/23/2022 7:51 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> >>> HI,
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, February 23, 2022 9:35 am, Paul Kinzelman wrote:
> >>>> I always balance my accounts every month. I used to use Quicken before
> >>>> they went to a rental model. Credit cards always balanced every month
> >>>> for me.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've been using GC for several years now, and notice that I sometimes
> >>>> can't
> >>>> get cards to balance, I have to add an imbalance amount. Then this
> >>>> month, I noticed that a charge that was on this month's statement
> >>>> and not last month's statement was already marked as reconciled in GC.
> >>>>
> >>>> Has anybody else noticed anything like this?
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't even know how to track this kind of thing down, whether it's
> >>>> a bug, or I'm just getting older and senile. :-)
> >>> without being rude, I would suggest the latter.
> >>> How are you entering your transactions?
> >>> I always enter them manually (I NEVER import), and when I have a
> problem
> >>> balancing I find it's *ALMOST ALWAYS* an error on my part (especially
> >>> with
> >>> my wife's card, because I don't get receipts from any online shopping
> >>> she
> >>> does).  When entering I find I sometimes swap digits, which causes the
> >>> result to be off.
> >>> Every once in a while I have to cancel the reconcile and start over and
> >>> CAREFULLY watch the numbers to find where I entered something
> >>> incorrectly.
> >>>
> >>> If you find you're off, then check again -- most likely something was
> >>> entered wrong.  Either that or you modified an existing, reconciled
> >>> transaction (from the other side) which caused a break in that starting
> >>> balance.
> >>>
> >>>> Ideas?
> >>>>
> >>>> TIA!
> >>>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> >>>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> >>> -derek
> >>>
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David Carlson