[GNC] reconcile problem?

[Paul Kinzelman]

Thanks, but I don't think any of those instances apply in my case. I 
don't remember
ever reconciling one part of a split transaction, and didn't move the 
transaction
to another account.

On 2/23/2022 10:10 AM, David Carlson wrote:
> A couple of other issues that could make GnuCash appear to be flakey 
> when it is just eccentric are as follows:
>
> One, while editing certain fields in a transaction that already 
> contains one or more split lines that are already reconciled, GnuCash 
> may unreconcile one or more of those reconciled splits.  The specific 
> details of that behavior was changed a couple of times over several 
> releases in the 3.x and 4.x series'.
>
> Two, the first time GnuCash tries to do that it warns you and gives 
> you an opportunity to change your mind, but it is very easy to click 
> on the button to never remind me again about this.  Then, if you 
> forget to go to Actions > Reset Warnings to get the warnings back, it 
> is even easier to shoot yourself in the foot.
>
> Last night I tested my skill at fixing a reconciliation error a few 
> months earlier and I noted that GnuCash will give 'incorrect' values 
> for the reconciliation if there are any 'future' [after the 
> reconciliation date] non-zero value transactions that have already 
> been reconciled.  In a way, this is a test for that sort of error.
>
> There is a third possible issue that can create a 'future' reconciled 
> transaction.  If a transaction was reconciled while it resided in 
> account 'A', and subsequently was edited to reside in account 'B', 
> GnuCash may not give the proper warning and un-reconcile that split 
> line.  I think this only happens in older releases.
>
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 9:34 AM Paul Kinzelman <paul at kinzelman.com> wrote:
>
>     That's a good question and I think that could be an explanation
>     for the resurrection of the reconciled transactions which happened
>     quite awhile ago when I was new to GC.
>
>     But that doesn't explain how a transaction could become
>     reconciled on its own like the one that happened this month, which
>     tipped me over the edge to post about it.
>
>     On 2/23/2022 8:29 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
>     > Are you possibly opening up a backup file when you start GnuCash?
>     >
>     > -derek
>     >
>     > On Wed, February 23, 2022 10:23 am, Paul Kinzelman wrote:
>     >> The latter is certainly possible, but it's strange that this
>     started with
>     >> gnucash, didn't happen with Quicken. But if nobody else has noticed
>     >> this, then maybe it is the latter. :-)
>     >>
>     >> And I have NEVER connected it to my account, as you suggested,
>     >> I ALWAYS enter everything by hand.
>     >>
>     >> Oh, and I'm using the Windows latest version.
>     >>
>     >> A while ago, I remember seeing a number of transactions which were
>     >> marked as reconciled become unreconciled as well, and it
>     balanced after
>     >> I checked them as reconciled again the next month.
>     >>
>     >> The real kicker was the one item I noticed that came up reconciled
>     >> this month as tho I had done it last month. And I couldn't have
>     done it
>     >> last month or else it would have been unbalanced. And the charge
>     >> was not on last month's statement.
>     >>
>     >> But if nobody else has seen anything like this, maybe it is
>     something
>     >> I'm doing. But it's strange that I never saw it with Quicken,
>     thus my
>     >> post.
>     >>
>     >> On 2/23/2022 7:51 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
>     >>> HI,
>     >>>
>     >>> On Wed, February 23, 2022 9:35 am, Paul Kinzelman wrote:
>     >>>> I always balance my accounts every month. I used to use
>     Quicken before
>     >>>> they went to a rental model. Credit cards always balanced
>     every month
>     >>>> for me.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> I've been using GC for several years now, and notice that I
>     sometimes
>     >>>> can't
>     >>>> get cards to balance, I have to add an imbalance amount. Then
>     this
>     >>>> month, I noticed that a charge that was on this month's statement
>     >>>> and not last month's statement was already marked as
>     reconciled in GC.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Has anybody else noticed anything like this?
>     >>>>
>     >>>> I don't even know how to track this kind of thing down,
>     whether it's
>     >>>> a bug, or I'm just getting older and senile. :-)
>     >>> without being rude, I would suggest the latter.
>     >>> How are you entering your transactions?
>     >>> I always enter them manually (I NEVER import), and when I have
>     a problem
>     >>> balancing I find it's *ALMOST ALWAYS* an error on my part
>     (especially
>     >>> with
>     >>> my wife's card, because I don't get receipts from any online
>     shopping
>     >>> she
>     >>> does).  When entering I find I sometimes swap digits, which
>     causes the
>     >>> result to be off.
>     >>> Every once in a while I have to cancel the reconcile and start
>     over and
>     >>> CAREFULLY watch the numbers to find where I entered something
>     >>> incorrectly.
>     >>>
>     >>> If you find you're off, then check again -- most likely
>     something was
>     >>> entered wrong.  Either that or you modified an existing,
>     reconciled
>     >>> transaction (from the other side) which caused a break in that
>     starting
>     >>> balance.
>     >>>
>     >>>> Ideas?
>     >>>>
>     >>>> TIA!
>     >>>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
>     >>>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>     >>> -derek
>     >>>
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