[GNC] access to Gnucash Nabble

[Ken Farley]

I will concur with all the other responders to this, that it's very 
common to want to customize the font and many other things about the 
program to make it more appealing or readable, etc. The thing about CSS 
files, if I understand things correctly, is that they are kind of a 
"read thru once" type of file. You specify the broad aspects of the 
appearances at the beginning of the file and then narrow down the scope 
of your changes as you progress down through the rest of the file.

I'm using GnuCash on a Mac so the location of settings files and the 
like is different from a Windows based operating system. But, the syntax 
used to make the settings is the same, as far as the CSS file goes. The 
Wiki is a good place to get an idea of the different places for the 
different configuration files, as has been suggested by others.

I do use Windows at work, and one of my pet peeves about their 
philosophy is making things "simple" for users with respect to file 
types and the like. In this area, simple seems to equal ignorant. They 
default to hiding "known" file types, as if that is some great favor to 
you, so you don't have to worry your little self about such things. 
Argh. This makes it incredibly difficult to help someone when they're 
looking at a directory of files and it shows three "setup" files, 
because Windows is saving you the bother of knowing there is a 
setup.bat, setup.exe, and setup.ini file. Unless you turn off that 
particular option, you don't know which file is which.

So, in case you are being cursed with the "it says it's gtk-3.0.css but 
I think it's saving as gtk-3.0.css.txt", attached is a gtk-3.0.css file 
that only contains the font settings listed in the messages below. You 
can try to copy this file in the location(s) specified by the Wiki, or 
any other suggestions you find in other messages about this topic, from 
the past. You close GnuCash, copy it to the directory you think will 
work, then start GnuCash, see if it did anything, etc. This is the 
method of testing settings if you're changing them by editing the .css file.

Once you get this initial setting working, you can maybe take a look at 
any of the other customizations people have done. You can really do some 
nice stuff with the GTK settings.

On 2022-01-16 13:44, David JamesTK wrote:
> Thanks Glen, yup, removed TXT as this also appeared when first editing settings.ini file.
>
> It is still a text file tho', as opposed to a configuration file (settings.ini)
>
> That link is useful, i'll try a few examples and go from there rather not take up anymore of folks time.
>
> Appreciate the help.
>
> David
>
> ________________________________
> From: Glenn Fowler<gfowler1 at outlook.com>
> Sent: 16 January 2022 18:20
> To: David JamesTK<davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk>
> Cc: D.<sunfish62 at yahoo.com>; D. via gnucash-user<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] access to Gnucash Nabble
>
> Hi David,
>
> Even though it's a txt file make sure you save it as gtk-3.0.css not gtk-3.0.css.txt
>
> Use this syntax instead of the one you posted:
>
> * {
>     font: 24px arial;
> }
>
> Here is an example css with other things that you might want to change:
>
> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/maint/doc/gtk-3.0.css
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 11:23 AM David JamesTK <davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:
> Followed to the letter but no change.
>
> Desktop which is a new build and new GNUCash install does have this path above, results should match your own.
>
> Created a text file gtk-3.0.css in C:\Users\david\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash\
>
> The text file only contains the below
>
> * {
>     font-size: 24px;
>     font-family: "Arial", sans-serif;
> }
>
> Has no one else asked to change the font before ?
>
> Cheers all
> ________________________________
> From: D. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com<mailto:sunfish62 at yahoo.com>>
> Sent: 16 January 2022 13:29
> To: David JamesTK <davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk>>
> Cc: David H <hellvee at gmail.com<mailto:hellvee at gmail.com>>; D. via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] access to Gnucash Nabble
>
> David,
>
> Until you create gtk-3.0.css, it's not going to exist.
>
> Use Notepad, copy and paste what I sent (maybe use "24px" as a test), and Save it as:
>
> C:\Users\david\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash\gtk-3.0.css
>
> Then start gnucash and see if things are changed.
> ________________________________
> From: David JamesTK
> Sent: Sun Jan 16 00:16:05 EST 2022
> To: "D."
> Cc: David H , "gnucash-user at gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>"
> Subject: Re: [GNC] access to Gnucash Nabble
>
> Thanks D, searched C: drive but no gtk-3.0.css file found.
>
> With Windows 10 changing the overall size of everything is easy, can be done in small increments too only problem is all items are made larger - Chrome is already bordering on too big at the moment.
>
> Nabble
>
> Yes, sorry the title is a bit misleading as originally asking where the Nabble mailing list forum (not a forum) thingy had moved to, thought support may have stopped.
>
> David H, can I respond to you also, the wiki page is my reference point too, if you can highlight what needs to be typed i.e correct syntax as per D response that would be great.
>
> Cheers
> ________________________________
> From: D. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com<mailto:sunfish62 at yahoo.com>>
> Sent: 16 January 2022 02:55
> To: David JamesTK <davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk>>
> Cc: David H <hellvee at gmail.com<mailto:hellvee at gmail.com>>; gnucash-user at gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>  <gnucash-user at gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] access to Gnucash Nabble
>
> So,
>
> My gtk-3.0.css is in
>
> C:\Users\{USERNAME}\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash
>
> And the designator that changes fonts looks like this:
>
> * {
>     font-size: 16px;
>     font-family: "Arial", sans-serif;
> }
>
> You'd be better off following that, rather than copying from another app.
>
> David T.
> ________________________________
> From: David JamesTK
> Sent: Sat Jan 15 20:12:23 EST 2022
> To: David H
> Cc: GnuCash users group
> Subject: Re: [GNC] access to Gnucash Nabble
>
>
> Copied the config file containing this
>
> [Settings]
> gtk-font-name=Arial 18
> gtk-xft-antialias=1
> gtk-xft-hinting=1
> gtk-xft-hintstyle=hintfull
> gtk-xft-rgba=rgb
>
> Into empty file location C:\Users\david\AppData\Local\gtk-3.
>
> No change, this happened with Thunderbird too, option there was edit css file something mentioned on wiki also.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: David H <hellvee at gmail.com<mailto:hellvee at gmail.com>>
> Sent: 16 January 2022 00:50
> To: David JamesTK <davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk>>
> Cc: Glenn Fowler <gfowler1 at outlook.com<mailto:gfowler1 at outlook.com>>; GnuCash users group <gnucash-user at gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] access to Gnucash Nabble
>
>
> It’s my understanding the file is optional so won’t appear in all locations? Have you tried copying your file into the app data location which is currently empty by the look of things?
>
> Cheers David H.
>
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 at 10:35 am, David JamesTK <davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk><mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk>>> wrote:
> Cheers David, tried the local folder first but appears empty (hide system files option off)
>
> C:\Users\david\AppData\Local\gtk-3.0  (empty)
>
> Searching C drive for gtk-3.0 returns four entries below with my comments in blue;
>
> C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gtk-3.0  (currently in this folder)
>
> C:\Users\david\AppData\Local\gtk-3.0  (empty)
>
> C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\share\themes\Default\gtk-3.0 (contains css file gtk-keys)
>
> C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\share\themes\Emacs\gtk-3.0  (contains css file gtk-keys)
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: David H <hellvee at gmail.com<mailto:hellvee at gmail.com><mailto:hellvee at gmail.com<mailto:hellvee at gmail.com>>>
> Sent: 16 January 2022 00:09
> To: David JamesTK <davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk><mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk>>>
> Cc: Glenn Fowler <gfowler1 at outlook.com<mailto:gfowler1 at outlook.com><mailto:gfowler1 at outlook.com<mailto:gfowler1 at outlook.com>>>; GnuCash users group <gnucash-user at gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org><mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>>>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] access to Gnucash Nabble
>
> Probably not, depends what you set GNC_DATA_HOME to I guess  - check that wiki again -https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations#GTK_CONFIG_HOME
>
> Cheers David H.
> GTK_DATA_HOME
>
> Versions: 3.x and more recent only
>
> GnuCash uses GTK for its graphical user interface; thus, locations that are used by GTK are also relevant. Note the base directories on Windows and macOS for this differ from the base directories for GNC_DATA_HOME<https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations#GNC_DATA_HOME>.
>
> Linux
> USER_DATA_HOME<https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations#USER_DATA_HOME>/gtk-3.0
> Windows
> %LOCALAPPDATA%<https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations#Environment_variables_LOCALAPPDATA_and_APPDATA>\gtk-3.0
> macOS
> HOME<https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations#HOME>/.local/share/gtk-3.0
>
>
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 at 09:56, David JamesTK <davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk><mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk>>> wrote:
> Thanks Glen.
>
> Currently in this folder C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gtk-3.0  on Windows 10 Pro
> editing this file settings.ini
>
> Before
>
> [Settings]
> gtk-xft-antialias=1
> gtk-xft-hinting=1
> gtk-xft-hintstyle=hintfull
> gtk-xft-rgba=rgb
>
> After
>
> [Settings]
> gtk-font-name=Arial 18
> gtk-xft-antialias=1
> gtk-xft-hinting=1
> gtk-xft-hintstyle=hintfull
> gtk-xft-rgba=rgb
>
> Is this the right folder location and entry (18 font not needed, just making it super obvious for any changes)
>
> Thanks, David
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Glenn Fowler <gfowler1 at outlook.com<mailto:gfowler1 at outlook.com><mailto:gfowler1 at outlook.com<mailto:gfowler1 at outlook.com>>>
> Sent: 15 January 2022 23:47
> To: David JamesTK <davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk><mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk>>>
> Cc: GnuCash users group <gnucash-user at gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org><mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>>>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] access to Gnucash Nabble
>
> Hi,
>
> You can use any text editor
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 6:20 PM David JamesTK <davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk><mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk>><mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk><mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:davidjamestk at hotmail.co.uk>>>> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> No idea if this will reach anyone but wanted to ask a question please.
>
> Just switched back to using Windows (long story) but noticed the font is smaller than on Mint using the same screen.
>
> Followed most of the GTK 3.0 instructions on Wiki including editing settings.ini file as per their help file, unfortunately no change at all.
>
> Do I need to run GTK inspector to edit or can this be done in notepad (as I have done?)
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>
>
>
>
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