[GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 226, Issue 56

Dan dan at dmohr.com
Fri Jan 21 12:18:54 EST 2022


Thank you David Cousens for your reply, I have studied it to great benefit.
One question I have is whether the mainfile can be automatically stored in
its own directory through a setting, or if I need to move the mainfile to
its own directory manually.  Also, should this be done on a regular basis,
or only when attempting to recover from a crash.

Dan

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>    4. Re:  Exiting GNUCash (David Carlson) (Kalpesh Patel)
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> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:06:24 +0000
> From: Gerald <gerald at dawsonhome.org>
> Cc: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] OneDrive and GnuCash
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> I use gnucash in Windows 10 in my OneDrive folder.  Occasionally (less that
> once a month) I'll get a file locked message when starting GC but I just
> delete the lock file in the folder and it's all fine.
>
> Aside from that I have no other file or save issues.
>
> I also backup the GC folder in OneDrive to Google Drive, because I'm
> paranoid!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 19:01 Jesse MacDougall, <macdougall.jesse at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Are you running gnu cash locally and the data from onedrive?
> > I have not used one drive personally but I did use Quickbooks to Dropbox
> in
> > real time and that was total fail.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:52 AM David Carlson <
> > david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Are there any GnuCash users that store their data files in One Drive?
> > >
> > > Are there any issues slow response or keeping a few weeks of backup and
> > log
> > > files?
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> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:27:56 +0000
> From: Gyle McCollam <gmccollam at live.com>
> To: D. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>, "gnucash-user at gnucash.org"
>         <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash
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> First, I would like to say that when I was referring to clicking the "x"
> it was for GNUCash, which the brings up the dialog for "Save/Close without
> Saving/Cancel".  However, if I click the cancel button it "crashes" as
> well.  Also, even if I click the Save, it does the same thing.  All
> instances "crash" GNUCash and any entries not saved since the last
> automatic save are lost.  I also feel it has nothing to do with OneDrive as
> it worked fine until this last problem.
>
>
> Thank You,
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> 609.680.2326                     Mobile
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> ________________________________
> From: D. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:46 PM
> To: David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Gyle McCollam <gmccollam at live.com>; D. via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash
>
> David,
>
> That's off topic. And I don't use OneDrive. Better to start a different
> topic.
>
> David T.
> ________________________________
> From: David Carlson
> Sent: Tue Jan 18 13:42:16 EST 2022
> To: "D."
> Cc: Gyle McCollam , "D. via gnucash-user"
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash
>
> David T,
>
> Is One Drive able to hide all the file system lags that it introduces from
> programs like GnuCash?  If so, I need to consider using it.  That is why I
> am asking for more comments here.
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 12:11 PM D. < sunfish62 at yahoo.com<mailto:
> sunfish62 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> David,
>
> What Gyle is describing has nothing to do with OneDrive. Gnucash shouldn't
> exit the program when he closes the "Save/Close without Saving/Cancel"
> dialog box by clicking the "X" for the dialog-- and it sure shouldn't leave
> the lock file in place when it does so. That the lock file still exists
> supports the idea of a crash.
>
> Gyle: what happens if you click Cancel?
>
> David T.
> ________________________________
> From: David Carlson
> Sent: Tue Jan 18 12:01:53 EST 2022
> To: Gyle McCollam
> Cc: " gnucash-user at gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>"
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash
>
>
> That is an issue with the way you have your file system organized, but it
> is not necessarily bad or wrong, just an artifact, I think.  I do not use
> OneDrive or equivalent yet myself because I have not decided how to manage
> that very issue of the lag while background updates are happening to my
> data file storage system.
>
> You are getting that lock warning because your OneDrive has not caught up
> with you yet.  If you open anyway, you are burdening the OneDrive with more
> work to keep the data intact, and I do not know if it can handle that, thus
> I do not try it.  Perhaps other users of that type of arrangement can give
> us their experience.That is probably also the cause of the Save Changes
> warning.  That may actually lose your recent work just as warned.  Again,
> perhaps others have experience with OneDrive.
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:38 AM Gyle McCollam <gmccollam at live.com<mailto:
> gmccollam at live.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>       David, Hopefully I can clarify what is happening.  I did not abandon
> an
>
>  edit.  I finished an entry, but clicked on the "x" to shutdown before
>
>  saving.  Included is a screenshot of a test entry that was completed (see
>
>  last line).  Then, I clicked on the "x" to shutdown and the dialogue
> popped
>
>  up.
>
>  I seem to remember that "cancel" brought you back into GNUCash and "save"
>
>  atctually save the current state of the file.  Now, it doesn't matter
> which
>
>  option I choose it, I think it crashes GNUCash.  Then on the next startup
>
>  it tells me:
>
>
>
>  I select "Open Anyway" and the test entry is gone.  I hope this make it
>
>  more clear.
>
>
>
>
>
>  Thank You,
>
>  *Gyle McCollam*
>
>
>
>  Gyle McCollam
>
>
>
>  609.680.2326                     Mobile
>
>
>
>
>      gmccollam at live.com<mailto:gmccollam at live.com> <
>      gmccollam at gyleshomes.com<mailto:gmccollam at gyleshomes.com>>
>  email
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>  *From:* David Carlson <
>      david.carlson.417 at gmail.com<mailto:david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>>
>
>  *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 8:46 PM
>
>  *To:* Gyle McCollam <
>      gmccollam at live.com<mailto:gmccollam at live.com>>
>
>  *Cc:*
>      gnucash-user at gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org> <
>      gnucash-user at gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>>
>
>  *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash
>
>
>
>  It is not clear what you think happened.  It seems that more than one
>
>  thing did not transpire as you expected, since abandoning an edit, the
>
>  presumed cause of the shutdown without saving warning, and the attempt to
>
>  open a file already in use are different events.
>
>  Then how did you ascertain that, in fact, GnuCash did not save.  What,
>
>  exactly did it not save?  Did you allow sufficient time for GnuCash to
>
>  actually complete the entire shutdown?  Sometimes it takes a really long
>
>  time to shut down.  For example, when Linux decides to put some of
>
>  GnuCash's virtual RAM onto hard drive swap space, it may take over a
> minute
>
>  for the OS to recover and close the open file.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 6:04 PM Gyle McCollam <
>      gmccollam at live.com<mailto:gmccollam at live.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
>  I usually don't forget to save first so I don't know how long this has
>
>  been happening.  Today I didn't save, so when the dialogue box came up, I
>
>  selected "cancel".  GNUCash shutdown without saving and when I tried to
>
>  open it thought there was another instance running, but I said open
>
>  anyway.  I tested this again with the same result.  Then I tried it again,
>
>  this time telling the system to save.  It shut down again, but it did not
>
>  save!  I got the same message about the file already in use.
>
>
>
>  Has anyone else encounter this error?  I am using Win11 and GNUCash 4.9.
>
>
>
>
>
>  Thank You,
>
>  Gyle McCollam
>
>
>
>  Gyle McCollam
>
>
>
>  609.680.2326                     Mobile
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:33:51 +0000
> From: Gyle McCollam <gmccollam at live.com>
> To: Gerald <gerald at dawsonhome.org>, "gnucash-user at gnucash.org"
>         <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] OneDrive and GnuCash
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> Gerald, I forget how it was done, but I set up OneDrive so that anything
> saved to my documents folder is saved to OneDrive.  In fact, I think they
> are one and the same, but I don't remember the setting.  It was so long
> ago.  I have had no issues with it or using it for GNUCash this way.
>
>
> Thank You,
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> 609.680.2326                     Mobile
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> ________________________________
> From: gnucash-user <gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail.com at gnucash.org> on
> behalf of Gerald <gerald at dawsonhome.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:06 PM
> Cc: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] OneDrive and GnuCash
>
> I use gnucash in Windows 10 in my OneDrive folder.  Occasionally (less that
> once a month) I'll get a file locked message when starting GC but I just
> delete the lock file in the folder and it's all fine.
>
> Aside from that I have no other file or save issues.
>
> I also backup the GC folder in OneDrive to Google Drive, because I'm
> paranoid!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 19:01 Jesse MacDougall, <macdougall.jesse at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Are you running gnu cash locally and the data from onedrive?
> > I have not used one drive personally but I did use Quickbooks to Dropbox
> in
> > real time and that was total fail.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:52 AM David Carlson <
> > david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Are there any GnuCash users that store their data files in One Drive?
> > >
> > > Are there any issues slow response or keeping a few weeks of backup and
> > log
> > > files?
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> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:51:33 -0500
> From: "Kalpesh Patel" <kalpesh.patel at usa.net>
> To: "'David Carlson'" <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>,
>         <gmccollam at live.com>
> Cc: <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash (David Carlson)
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> I do use Google drive  to keep backup copy but I am mindful that I "sync"
> the GNC directory from static location from my C: drive to Google Drive as
> part of my startup process (mirror via a BAT script in Startup folder using
> RoboCopy - Win 10 still has startup folder to throw things in there ?) when
> I fire up the computer. This way I always know either I am missing the full
> set of manually entered data from the last session or it has everything.
> You have to be mindful that Google Drive, OneDrive and many other online
> drives are eventual consistent as opposed to synchronous replication type
> so you have to account for that gap as it can lead to bad results. I also
> encrypt my sensitive data that gets stored in Google Drive using CryptSync
> which can do bi-directional (it discerns which file is latest and replicate
> accordingly for each file protected under a folder). Since most, if not
> all, of my transactions are downloaded in OFX format, it is not too
> difficult to bring up to current sta
>  te if it goes out of state.
>
>
>
> >From what I know is that Google Drive, OneDrive and other online drives
> will write lock protect the file for the duration of transmission to and
> from their servers - this is just normal operation of how async replication
> works as those drive apps wants to make sure that copy is exact bit for
> bit. Once transmission is completed and you save the file, you are actually
> overwriting the previous file that was there (as opposed to modifying
> portion of it) and then it will go in this "lock" mode again while it is
> transmitting hence it is not a good ideas, IMHO, as this cycle will repeat
> every time there is change, including one bit matadata change like time
> stamp updates. If you X'ed out from the program while GNC lock file was
> locked by the Google drive or OneDrive for synching in this manner, then it
> never was really removed and when you go into GNC you will see that message
> show up as chances are that online drive program may have replicated that
> tiny file back by the time you launched
>  GNC.
>
>
>
> On the linux systems, the file cache is the culprit in the behavior if
> something like that happens. Normally linux systems is very aggressive in
> caching files where it will use almost all of the free physical memory
> available and if the file is small enough it most likely is working from
> the memory copy even though it was pulled from ufs/xfs file system and you
> wrote it (via save) multiple times - it never potentially made it to the
> hard drive platters but Google Drive or OneDrive will synch it up to their
> servers and then when you fire it up again, it will get synced down to your
> local system and will display that window as well.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 1
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 11:19:32 -0600
>
> From: David Carlson < <mailto:david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
>
> To: Gyle McCollam < <mailto:gmccollam at live.com> gmccollam at live.com>
>
> Cc: " <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org> gnucash-user at gnucash.org" <
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> Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash
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>
> Good.  I would still like to hear from others about their experience with
> using GnuCash and OneDrive together.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 11:15 AM Gyle McCollam < <mailto:
> gmccollam at live.com> gmccollam at live.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > David, thanks for the prompt response.  I have used it this way for
>
> > years and it used to work.  Fortunately, I don't usually forget to save
> first.
>
> > When I do save, I have no issues.
>
> >
>
> > Thank You,
>
> > *Gyle McCollam*
>
> >
>
> > Gyle McCollam
>
> >
>
> > 609.680.2326                     Mobile
>
> >
>
> >  <mailto:gmccollam at live.com> gmccollam at live.com < <mailto:
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> > ------------------------------
>
> > *From:* David Carlson < <mailto:david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 12:01 PM
>
> > *To:* Gyle McCollam < <mailto:gmccollam at live.com> gmccollam at live.com>
>
> > *Cc:*  <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org> gnucash-user at gnucash.org <
> <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org> gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>
> > *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash
>
> >
>
> > That is an issue with the way you have your file system organized, but
>
> > it is not necessarily bad or wrong, just an artifact, I think.  I do
>
> > not use OneDrive or equivalent yet myself because I have not decided
>
> > how to manage that very issue of the lag while background updates are
>
> > happening to my data file storage system.
>
> >
>
> > You are getting that lock warning because your OneDrive has not caught
>
> > up with you yet.  If you open anyway, you are burdening the OneDrive
>
> > with more work to keep the data intact, and I do not know if it can
>
> > handle that, thus I do not try it.  Perhaps other users of that type
>
> > of arrangement can give us their experience.That is probably also the
>
> > cause of the Save Changes warning.  That may actually lose your recent
>
> > work just as warned.  Again, perhaps others have experience with
> OneDrive.
>
> >
>
> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:38 AM Gyle McCollam < <mailto:
> gmccollam at live.com> gmccollam at live.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > David, Hopefully I can clarify what is happening.  I did not abandon
>
> > an edit.  I finished an entry, but clicked on the "x" to shutdown
>
> > before saving.  Included is a screenshot of a test entry that was
>
> > completed (see last line).  Then, I clicked on the "x" to shutdown and
>
> > the dialogue popped up.
>
> > I seem to remember that "cancel" brought you back into GNUCash and "save"
>
> > atctually save the current state of the file.  Now, it doesn't matter
>
> > which option I choose it, I think it crashes GNUCash.  Then on the
>
> > next startup it tells me:
>
> >
>
> > I select "Open Anyway" and the test entry is gone.  I hope this make
>
> > it more clear.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Thank You,
>
> > *Gyle McCollam*
>
> >
>
> > Gyle McCollam
>
> >
>
> > 609.680.2326                     Mobile
>
> >
>
> >  <mailto:gmccollam at live.com> gmccollam at live.com < <mailto:
> gmccollam at gyleshomes.com> gmccollam at gyleshomes.com>           email
>
> > ------------------------------
>
> > *From:* David Carlson < <mailto:david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
>
> > *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 8:46 PM
>
> > *To:* Gyle McCollam < <mailto:gmccollam at live.com> gmccollam at live.com>
>
> > *Cc:*  <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org> gnucash-user at gnucash.org <
> <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org> gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>
> > *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash
>
> >
>
> > It is not clear what you think happened.  It seems that more than one
>
> > thing did not transpire as you expected, since abandoning an edit, the
>
> > presumed cause of the shutdown without saving warning, and the attempt
>
> > to open a file already in use are different events.
>
> > Then how did you ascertain that, in fact, GnuCash did not save.  What,
>
> > exactly did it not save?  Did you allow sufficient time for GnuCash to
>
> > actually complete the entire shutdown?  Sometimes it takes a really
>
> > long time to shut down.  For example, when Linux decides to put some
>
> > of GnuCash's virtual RAM onto hard drive swap space, it may take over
>
> > a minute for the OS to recover and close the open file.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 6:04 PM Gyle McCollam < <mailto:
> gmccollam at live.com> gmccollam at live.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > I usually don't forget to save first so I don't know how long this has
>
> > been happening.  Today I didn't save, so when the dialogue box came
>
> > up, I selected "cancel".  GNUCash shutdown without saving and when I
>
> > tried to open it thought there was another instance running, but I
>
> > said open anyway.  I tested this again with the same result.  Then I
>
> > tried it again, this time telling the system to save.  It shut down
>
> > again, but it did not save!  I got the same message about the file
> already in use.
>
> >
>
> > Has anyone else encounter this error?  I am using Win11 and GNUCash 4.9.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Thank You,
>
> > Gyle McCollam
>
> >
>
> > Gyle McCollam
>
> >
>
> > 609.680.2326                     Mobile
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> >
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 15:03:46 -0500
> From: Steve Conley <Steve1 at stevenwconley.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] Bug 798423 - IMPORT QIF crashes on a Quicken
>         transaction Reminder (NOT a scheduled reminder)
> Message-ID:
>         <CAK4AWGOuFuGW+NXfC_9AfirYjV1vjaE+mKkUaedtzxHr06qJ=
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> I submitted this bug, which was my only "stopper" so far.
>
> Taking import a bit at a time, but it seems to be working well.
>
> I discovered a couple of minor issues with my entries in 26 years pf
> quicken and am correcting this and restarting.
>
> Just wanted to thank everyone again, and if I did anything wrong with the
> bug submission, please let me know.
>
> I did search Google and the bug list and did not find this bug.
>
> Steve Conley
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:19:12 -0600
> From: Les <lelliott5 at gmail.com>
> To: David H <hellvee at gmail.com>
> Cc: GnuCash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash via Flatpak-Issues-Solutions
> Message-ID: <fc5bdff2-aada-e93b-0118-102980f76e20 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Hi David: thanks for the reply.? GC via Flatpac is the only issue I
> have.? Since some of the problems occurred during upgrades.
>
> As far as upgrading Linux MInt: I did upgrade to a 20:1 awhile back, but
> it broke some of my other apps.? So I went back to 19.3.
>
> As an experiment, I have another laptop with LM 19.3.? I installed the
> latest GC via Flatpac and DID NOT have any of the issues that I have
> experienced on this machine.? Weird to say the least.
>
> Les
>
> On 1/17/22 7:41 PM, David H wrote:
> > Hi Les,
> >
> > No idea but I wouldn?t think so but it won?t hurt to try. I?ve been
> > using the flat pack version on Ubuntu for ages now and also recently
> > on Mint 20.3 without seeing any of the problems you seem to be having.
> > Do you have any of these issues in other programs/apps ? Have you
> > considered upgrading Linux Mint to see if that fixes the problem ?
> >
> > Cheers David H.
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 at 6:05 am, Les <lelliott5 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:lelliott5 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     I have been using GC for many years and a few years back I started
> >     using
> >     Flatpak for installations and updates.? I am on Linux Mint 19.3
> >     and GC 4.9.
> >
> >     For the last year or so, I have had some annoying issues: unable to
> >     correct entries, unable to backspace within an account, and the
> >     latest,
> >     I cannot open an account by double-clicking.? Instead I have to click
> >     open account.
> >
> >     My question is: if I completely uninstall GC via Flatpak and then
> >     re-install via Flatpak, will I accomplish anything? (The hope of
> >     course,
> >     is to eliminate the annoying issues.)
> >
> >     Regards and thanks in advance,
> >
> >     Les
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:50:03 -0600
> From: Les <lelliott5 at gmail.com>
> To: David H <hellvee at gmail.com>
> Cc: GnuCash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash via Flatpak-Issues-Solutions
> Message-ID: <5b839230-f924-070c-e4f8-e2bfbfbcea5a at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> I uninstalled GC via flatpak and then reinstalled it.? No difference.
>
> Oh well.
>
> Les
>
> On 1/17/22 7:41 PM, David H wrote:
> > Hi Les,
> >
> > No idea but I wouldn?t think so but it won?t hurt to try. I?ve been
> > using the flat pack version on Ubuntu for ages now and also recently
> > on Mint 20.3 without seeing any of the problems you seem to be having.
> > Do you have any of these issues in other programs/apps ? Have you
> > considered upgrading Linux Mint to see if that fixes the problem ?
> >
> > Cheers David H.
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 at 6:05 am, Les <lelliott5 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:lelliott5 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     I have been using GC for many years and a few years back I started
> >     using
> >     Flatpak for installations and updates.? I am on Linux Mint 19.3
> >     and GC 4.9.
> >
> >     For the last year or so, I have had some annoying issues: unable to
> >     correct entries, unable to backspace within an account, and the
> >     latest,
> >     I cannot open an account by double-clicking.? Instead I have to click
> >     open account.
> >
> >     My question is: if I completely uninstall GC via Flatpak and then
> >     re-install via Flatpak, will I accomplish anything? (The hope of
> >     course,
> >     is to eliminate the annoying issues.)
> >
> >     Regards and thanks in advance,
> >
> >     Les
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 07:00:59 +1000
> From: davidcousens49 at gmail.com
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Using logs for recovery
> Message-ID: <56fea91528e64b21a05e8096f2fa65f85df0c364.camel at gmail.com>
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>
> Dan
>
> GnuCash will create a log file and a backup file copy  each time it exits
> and
> depending on you preference settings will usually keep a fixed number of
> them in
> the same directory as the mainfile. It is good practice to keep your
> mainfile in
> its own directory for this reason. The trick is to pick the logfile with a
> date-
> timestamp just before the session in which you crashed. There will also be
> a
> similar number of timestamped backup files.
>
> If your main file (the one with no timestamp) won't open after a crash,
> the best
> procedure is to  rename the current mainfile by adding a ".old" or similar
> extension appended then copy the backup file with the most recent
> timestamp to
> the main file <filename>.gnucash. Run GnuCash opening the renamed backup
> file,
> import any log files in sequence with a timestamp more recent than the
> backup
> file you renamed as the main file. That should restore your file to the
> point
> just before the crash. If that succeeds then you can delete the copy of
> the main
> file you renamed to ".old"
>
>
> If this still causes a crash repeat the sequence but edit the most recent
> log
> file in a text editor before importing it and remove the last transaction
> which
> likely caused the crash. You will then have to reenter that transaction
> when
> GnuCash is up and running.
>
> Note  In the above only a copy of the most recent backup is renamed to the
> mainfile and not the backup itself. This maintains the integrity of the
> file
> backups should anything go wrong in the subsequent import which allows you
> to
> repeat the procedure until you manage to correct the problem.
>
> David Cousens
>
> On Tue, 2022-01-18 at 09:10 -0800, Dan wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Several times I have tried to use logs to recover after a crash and never
> > seem to be able to make them work.  (Please note that I am "intermediate
> > level" with GNUcash, and have very limited programming experience.)
> > After navigating to:  File ? Import ? Replay GnuCash .log file, I am
> faced
> > with many .log files following the most recently saved  .gnucash file.
> > None of the .log files I replayed seem to do anything.
> > My next step is to set up a test company and wreak havoc on the files
> > intentionally, and also recover correctly. Below are some questions I
> hope
> > will save me some time.
> > Thank you for your consideration. This site is very helpful.
> >
> >
> > My questions are:
> >
> > Am I missing a crucial step here?
> >
> > Will I need to replay several .log files? (To clarify, are the .log files
> > each for a specific time period, or does the most recent .log file
> contain
> > all activity since the last saved .gnucash file?)
> >
> > Which .log file(s) should I use?
> >
> > Which .log file(s) will "wreak havoc" on my accounts?
> >
> > Thank you again,
> > Confused Dan
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