[GNC] Saving window position (and size)

Tue Jul 12 17:40:45 EDT 2022

Well, it is definitely a Wayland vs X11 issue. When I switched from Wayland
to X11, the problem just magically went away.

If I thought I stood a chance of being listened to there, I would file a
bug report against Wayland - but I suspect it wouldn't get much
traction.....

Anyway, thanks, all, for the pointers, and especially to Martin for jogging
my memory about the Wayland vs X11 change in Ubuntu 22.04.

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 14:29 Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org> wrote:

> Yes, I was thinking about that as well. Ubuntu 20.04 shipped with X11 as
> default, and 22.04 ships with Wayland as default. Maybe I will try changing
> that and see what happens. I always felt more comfortable with X11, but
> figured I would at least try Wayland, since they were making it the default
> now.....
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 14:18 Martin Booth <mdj.booth at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> I think your issue is the windowing system on Debian which can be found
>> under setting/about, it probably states Wayland and not X11.
>>
>> I have just checked my system and I am running X11 not Wayland which is
>> default on Debian distro's
>>
>> To change that:
>>
>> Log off
>> at the log on screen click the user or highlight the password box, at
>> the bottom right on the screen there is a wheel (settings) click that
>> and change it from Ubuntu Wayland to Ubuntu.
>> The windowing system will now be X11 and not Wayland
>>
>> Log back on and the window system should be back to center not upper
>> left each time you start and app, and the open windows in that app will
>> stay where you left them.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Martin
>>
>> On Tue, 2022-07-12 at 13:20 -0400, Tracy wrote:
>> > Well, I haven't gotten very far in digging, but the fact that other
>> > people
>> > are not having the problem makes it that much more likely that it is
>> > my
>> > machine. If it wasn't such a pain to set everything back up
>> > afterwards, I
>> > would just wipe the system and install fresh.
>> >
>> > Meanwhile, I will keep looking and see if I can figure out which
>> > setting(s)
>> > are causing the problem. If I figure it out, I will report back.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 13:12 Martin Booth <mdj.booth at yahoo.co.uk>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi David,
>> > > No issues for me.
>> > > I am running GS 4.11 on Ubuntu 22.04 and the windows stay in the
>> > > same
>> > > place where I left them when I last closed GS
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Martin
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, 2022-07-12 at 09:48 -0500, David Carlson wrote:
>> > > > Tracy,
>> > > >
>> > > > I would not like a desktop that did not remember where a window
>> > > > was
>> > > > located
>> > > > on the desktop/display combination when last used.  Any other
>> > > > users
>> > > > seeing
>> > > > similar issues?
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 7:32 AM Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi David,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Everything I can find says that Gnome (the desktop environment
>> > > > > set
>> > > > > up by
>> > > > > default in Ubuntu 22.04 - which was also the desktop
>> > > > > environment
>> > > > > used in
>> > > > > 20.04, which worked as expected) does not save window placement
>> > > > > information. Instead, it is the responsibility of the
>> > > > > application.
>> > > > > Gnome
>> > > > > will attempt to place applications according to a scheme if the
>> > > > > application
>> > > > > does not specify a starting position, but the application gets
>> > > > > first call
>> > > > > on that (at least according to what I see - I am not an expert
>> > > > > on
>> > > > > this).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I am starting to wonder, though, if something in Gnome hasn't
>> > > > > changed (or
>> > > > > maybe a setting got clobbered during the upgrade), because
>> > > > > another
>> > > > > application has started showing the same problem (LibreOffice
>> > > > > Calc
>> > > > > is now
>> > > > > doing the same thing GnuCash does - it opens correctly sized,
>> > > > > but
>> > > > > not
>> > > > > correctly positioned). So I am going to try to research that
>> > > > > aspect
>> > > > > and see
>> > > > > if there is a setting in Gnome that may be overriding the
>> > > > > application's
>> > > > > requested startup positioning.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 01:26 David Carlson
>> > > > > <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Wouldn't the position on the desktop be a desktop setting?
>> > > > > > How
>> > > > > > do other
>> > > > > > program windows position themselves when opened?  In my test
>> > > > > > system of
>> > > > > > Lubuntu 22.04 GnuCash opened the first time in the center of
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > desktop
>> > > > > > and thereafter in the same place it was when I closed it,
>> > > > > > just as
>> > > > > > Libre
>> > > > > > Office , web browsers, games and other programs do.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 9:46 PM Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Gyle,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks for the response. The desktop icons and such work a
>> > > > > > > little
>> > > > > > > differently under Ubuntu than under Windows. But even so,
>> > > > > > > if I
>> > > > > > > go
>> > > > > > > directly to the exectuable and launch the application from
>> > > > > > > there, I get
>> > > > > > > the same result.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > And thank you for correcting my mistake there - it is
>> > > > > > > indeed
>> > > > > > > Preferences, not Settings - and the heading immediately
>> > > > > > > over
>> > > > > > > the Save
>> > > > > > > Window Size And Position is Window Geometry.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On 7/11/22 20:13, Gyle McCollam wrote:
>> > > > > > > > Tracy,
>> > > > > > > > I'm on 4.11 on Windows 11 so I may have different
>> > > > > > > > options.
>> > > > > > > > Mine is
>> > > > > > > under Edit/Preferences/Windows/Window Geometry and has a
>> > > > > > > check
>> > > > > > > box for
>> > > > > > > "save window size and position".  It works fine.  However,
>> > > > > > > if
>> > > > > > > the icon
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > > start Gnucash has the properties set for anything other
>> > > > > > > than
>> > > > > > > "Normal
>> > > > > > > Window", they override the setting in Gnucash.  If it is
>> > > > > > > set to
>> > > > > > > "Normal
>> > > > > > > Window" then Gnucash works the way you would like.  So my
>> > > > > > > suggestion is
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > > check how your Gnucash Icon is set.  Hope that helps.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Thank You,
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Gyle McCollam
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Gyle McCollam
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > gmccollam at live.com<mailto:gmccollam at gyleshomes.com>
>> > > > > > > > email
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > ________________________________
>> > > > > > > > From: gnucash-user
>> > > > > > > > <gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail.com at gnucash.org
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > on behalf of Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org>
>> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 7:10 PM
>> > > > > > > > To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>> > > > > > > > Subject: [GNC] Saving window position (and size)
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Ubuntu 22.04
>> > > > > > > > Gnucash 4.8
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > In the Edit > Settings dialog, under "Window" there is an
>> > > > > > > > option to
>> > > > > save
>> > > > > > > > the current window size and position. However, this does
>> > > > > > > > not
>> > > > > > > > appear to
>> > > > > > > > be working fully - when I position GnuCash on the screen,
>> > > > > > > > then close
>> > > > > it,
>> > > > > > > > then reopen it, it opens with the correct size, but not
>> > > > > > > > in
>> > > > > > > > the correct
>> > > > > > > > position - instead of where I left it, it opens with the
>> > > > > > > > upper left
>> > > > > > > > corner of the GnuCash window positioned at the upper left
>> > > > > > > > corner of
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > desktop (instead of having the GnuCash window positioned
>> > > > > > > > 2/3
>> > > > > > > > of the
>> > > > > way
>> > > > > > > > to the right on the desktop, as it was when I closed it).
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > I have looked into the Wiki and found that the window
>> > > > > > > > position and
>> > > > > size
>> > > > > > > > is stored in:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > $HOME/.local/share/gnucash/books/GnuTest.gnucash.gcm
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Closing GnuCash and editing this file (specifically
>> > > > > > > > changing
>> > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > WindowPosition property in the [Window 1] section) does
>> > > > > > > > not
>> > > > > > > > change the
>> > > > > > > > startup position of the GnuCash window.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Is there another place I should be looking for this, or
>> > > > > > > > am I
>> > > > > completely
>> > > > > > > > confused and there is another setting in the Settings
>> > > > > > > > window
>> > > > > > > > that I
>> > > > > > > > should be looking at, or....?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Note that this was an upgrade from Ubuntu 20.04 and
>> > > > > > > > GnuCash
>> > > > > > > > 3.<I don't
>> > > > > > > > remember the point version> so it is possible that there
>> > > > > > > > are
>> > > > > > > > files or
>> > > > > > > > settings that were left behind by the upgrade process
>> > > > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > are
>> > > > > > > > interfering (if so, and someone can point me to a
>> > > > > > > > resource
>> > > > > > > > for
>> > > > > cleaning
>> > > > > > > > up those settings, I would be happy to poke at it...)
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any information or assistance on
>> > > > > > > > this.
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