[GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 55

Maf. King maf at chilwell.net
Thu Jun 23 14:42:35 EDT 2022 

Off the top of my head, I don't recall exactly.

I _think_, aside from bad debt,  I handled vendor discounts and credit notes 
in this way, before GC became more elegant in that way.

Hth,
Maf.


On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 02:21:31 BST Eric Hammond wrote:
> Thank you David, Derek and Maf,
> 
> That works good enough, since I don't expect to need it much.
> Maf, I am interested in what other situations this is needed.
> 
> There were no intended graphics (or?) attached. It may be my Outlook adding
> a background
> 
> Thanks again,
> Eric
> 
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>    1.  Stock and Stock Prices (Gyle McCollam)
>    2.  Thank you for your courtesy (Jim DeLaHunt)
>    3.  Help (Eric Hammond)
>    4. Re:  Thank you for your courtesy (Chris Graves)
>    5. Re:  Help (Derek Atkins)
>    6. Re:  Help (Maf. King)
>    7. Re:  Help (davidcousens49 at gmail.com)
>    8. Re:  Help (Derek Atkins)
>    9. Re:  Help (davidcousens49 at gmail.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:08:23 +0000
> From: Gyle McCollam <gmccollam at live.com>
> To: "gnucash-user at gnucash.org" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: [GNC] Stock and Stock Prices
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> My statements for stocks show shares and prices per share to 5 decimal
> places.  In GnuCash "Tools/Price Database" it shows the per share price to
> 5 decimal places as well.  However, in the register it shows the shares and
> balance to 5 decimal places as well, but it only shows the price to 4
> decimal places.  I can't find how to change this anywhere.  I would like it
> to show the price in the register to the same 5 decimal places it has it
> recorded to in the price database.  Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> Gyle McCollam
> 
> Gyle McCollam
> 
> gmccollam at live.com<mailto:gmccollam at gyleshomes.com>           email
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 12:35:30 -0700
> From: Jim DeLaHunt <list+gnucash at jdlh.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] Thank you for your courtesy
> Message-ID: <03a1e981-8eb3-caa4-60f0-a5c565564082 at jdlh.com>
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> Liz, David T, Gyle, and D:
> (but really everyone contributes)
> 
> Thank you for your courtesy.? Liz, thank you for your work as list
> moderator, and specifically for stepping in when some recent language was
> not acceptable here. The others of you, thank you for apologising, rather
> than lashing out. The result is a more pleasant and more productive email
> list and community.
> 
> I am subscribed to users' mailing lists for other projects, where this sort
> of courtesy is often lacking. Nasty comments are more common. Some
> participants are repeatedly nasty. When someone points out that they are
> violating the community's code of conduct, they do not apologise, and they
> lash out with more nastiness. It is awful.
> 
> And that is one of the reasons why I spend more effort participating here
> rather than there. Thank you.
> 
> Best regards,
>  ??? ?Jim DeLaHunt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:43:14 +0000
> From: Eric Hammond <eric at jehammond.net>
> To: "gnucash-user at gnucash.org" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: [GNC] Help
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> 
> I was not paid by a client, and have 'written it off', but how do I book it
> in GnuCash? Standard business practice is to post it in to an expense
> account such as 'Bad Debt' or 'Uncollectable'. I have created the account
> 'Expenses:Bad Debt' but GnuCash does not allow me to select it, apparently
> only accepting an asset account.
> 
> Thank you for the help,
> 
> Eric
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 13:15:09 -0700
> From: Chris Graves <mohavebaked at gmail.com>
> To: Jim DeLaHunt <list+gnucash at jdlh.com>
> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Thank you for your courtesy
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> +1
> 
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 12:36 PM Jim DeLaHunt <list+gnucash at jdlh.com> wrote:
> > Liz, David T, Gyle, and D:
> > (but really everyone contributes)
> > 
> > Thank you for your courtesy.  Liz, thank you for your work as list
> > moderator, and specifically for stepping in when some recent language
> > was not acceptable here. The others of you, thank you for apologising,
> > rather than lashing out. The result is a more pleasant and more
> > productive email list and community.
> > 
> > I am subscribed to users' mailing lists for other projects, where this
> > sort of courtesy is often lacking. Nasty comments are more common.
> > Some participants are repeatedly nasty. When someone points out that
> > they are violating the community's code of conduct, they do not
> > apologise, and they lash out with more nastiness. It is awful.
> > 
> > And that is one of the reasons why I spend more effort participating
> > here rather than there. Thank you.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> >      ?Jim DeLaHunt
> > 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 16:35:29 -0400
> From: "Derek Atkins" <derek at ihtfp.com>
> To: "Eric Hammond" <eric at jehammond.net>
> Cc: "gnucash-user at gnucash.org" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Help
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, June 21, 2022 3:43 pm, Eric Hammond wrote:
> > I was not paid by a client, and have 'written it off', but how do I
> > book it in GnuCash?
> > Standard business practice is to post it in to an expense account such
> > as 'Bad Debt' or 'Uncollectable'.
> > I have created the account 'Expenses:Bad Debt' but GnuCash does not
> > allow me to select it, apparently only accepting an asset account.
> 
> The way I have done it myself (as the original author of the biz features)
> was to process the payment as if I was paid, but then change the
> transaction from Asset:Bank to Expense:WriteOff.  So long as you don't
> change the *amount* of the payment (or other numerical values) then this
> won't break or affect anything in the internal references.
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> > Thank you for the help,
> > 
> > Eric
> > 
> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> 
> -derek
> 
> PS: I'm sorry your client didn't pay you.
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Tue, June 21, 2022 3:43 pm, Eric Hammond wrote:
> > > I was not paid by a client, and have 'written it off', but how do I book
> > > it in GnuCash?
> > > Standard business practice is to post it in to an expense account such
> > > as
> > > 'Bad Debt' or 'Uncollectable'.
> > > I have created the account 'Expenses:Bad Debt' but GnuCash does not
> > > allow
> > > me to select it, apparently only accepting an asset account.
> > 
> > The way I have done it myself (as the original author of the biz features)
> > was to process the payment as if I was paid, but then change the
> > transaction from Asset:Bank to Expense:WriteOff.  So long as you don't
> > change the *amount* of the payment (or other numerical values) then this
> > won't break or affect anything in the internal references.
> > 
> > Hope this helps!
> > 
> > > Thank you for the help,
> > > 
> > > Eric
> > > 
> > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> > 
> > -derek
> > 
> > PS: I'm sorry your client didn't pay you.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 09:20:18 +1000
> From: davidcousens49 at gmail.com
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Help
> Message-ID: <eec7c63b0ea378bb5d614059ab50af67c30b1944.camel at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> Eric,
> 
> The image you attached did not appear to contain anything. Presumably you
> raised an invoice when you billed the client which would have created an
> entry debiting Accounts Receivable and crediting the appropriate income
> account.
> 
> To record the bad debt you would create a transaction which credited
> Accounts Receivable and debited Expense:Bad Debts. This will cancel out the
> amount credited to Income in the original invoice. I had no difficulty
> creating such an entry in V4.10 with a test account setup for the business
> features. There was no limitation on the account selection when I created
> the transaction in the Accounts Receivable register.
> 
> The Help manual
> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/busnss-ar-payment1.html has a
> description of how to do this using the process payment process which does
> have a restriction on processing the payment to an expense account. The key
> is to select an asset account (e.g. cheque account) when creating the
> transaction in Process payment and then after the transaction is created
> change the account from the asset account to the Expense:Bad Debt account.
> It is only the process payment procedure which has a restriction on the
> type of account you can select for a payment and there is no way that
> GnuCash could internally differentiate between a payment to an Bad Debts
> expense account and any other expense account as there isn't a specific
> account type for bad debts.
> 
> David Cousens
> 
> On Tue, 2022-06-21 at 19:43 +0000, Eric Hammond wrote:
> > I was not paid by a client, and have 'written it off', but how do I book
> > it in GnuCash?
> > Standard business practice is to post it in to an expense account such as
> > 'Bad Debt' or 'Uncollectable'.
> > I have created the account 'Expenses:Bad Debt' but GnuCash does not allow
> > me to select it, apparently only accepting an asset account.
> > 
> > Thank you for the help,
> > 
> > Eric
> > 
> > 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:41:37 -0400
> From: "Derek Atkins" <derek at ihtfp.com>
> To: davidcousens49 at gmail.com
> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Help
> Message-ID:
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> David,
> 
> On Tue, June 21, 2022 7:20 pm, davidcousens49 at gmail.com wrote:
> > Eric,
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > To record the bad debt you would create a transaction which credited
> > Accounts
> > Receivable and debited Expense:Bad Debts. This will cancel out the amount
> > credited to Income in the original invoice. I had no difficulty creating
> > such an
> > entry in V4.10 with a test account setup for the business features. There
> > was no
> > limitation on the account selection when I created the transaction in the
> > Accounts Receivable register.
> 
> Just creating the transaction directly is not sufficient -- you still have
> to map it to the Customer to "pay" the invoice.
> 
> > The Help manual
> > https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/busnss-ar-payment1.html has
> > a
> > description of how to do this using the process payment process which does
> > have
> > a restriction on processing the payment to an expense account. The key is
> > to
> > select an asset account (e.g. cheque account) when creating the
> > transaction in
> > Process payment and then after the transaction is created change the
> > account
> > from the asset account to the Expense:Bad Debt account. It is only the
> > process
> > payment procedure which has a restriction on the type of account you can
> > select
> > for a payment and there is no way that GnuCash could internally
> > differentiate
> > between a payment to an Bad Debts expense account and any other expense
> > account
> > 
> >  as there isn't a specific account type for bad debts.
> 
> Yes, which is the process I pointed out several hours ago.  :)
> 
> > David Cousens
> > 
> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> 
> -derek
> 
> > David,
> > 
> > On Tue, June 21, 2022 7:20 pm, davidcousens49 at gmail.com wrote:
> > > Eric,
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > > To record the bad debt you would create a transaction which credited
> > > Accounts
> > > Receivable and debited Expense:Bad Debts. This will cancel out the
> > > amount
> > > credited to Income in the original invoice. I had no difficulty creating
> > > such an
> > > entry in V4.10 with a test account setup for the business features.
> > > There
> > > was no
> > > limitation on the account selection when I created the transaction in
> > > the
> > > Accounts Receivable register.
> > 
> > Just creating the transaction directly is not sufficient -- you still have
> > to map it to the Customer to "pay" the invoice.
> > 
> > > The Help manual
> > > https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/busnss-ar-payment1.html
> > > has
> > > a
> > > description of how to do this using the process payment process which
> > > does
> > > have
> > > a restriction on processing the payment to an expense account. The key
> > > is
> > > to
> > > select an asset account (e.g. cheque account) when creating the
> > > transaction in
> > > Process payment and then after the transaction is created change the
> > > account
> > > from the asset account to the Expense:Bad Debt account. It is only the
> > > process
> > > payment procedure which has a restriction on the type of account you can
> > > select
> > > for a payment and there is no way that GnuCash could internally
> > > differentiate
> > > between a payment to an Bad Debts expense account and any other expense
> > > account
> > > 
> > >  as there isn't a specific account type for bad debts.
> > 
> > Yes, which is the process I pointed out several hours ago.  :)
> > 
> > > David Cousens
> > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> > 
> > -derek
> 
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