[GNC] Help please. Upgraded from 2.3.4 to 4.12. Worked fine. But database does not load. Win 11.

Rosepetals pogichinoy at gmail.com
Wed Oct 26 08:16:11 EDT 2022


No worries. Thanks heaps for responding and your suggestions. It is much
appreciated!

Yes I presume they’re quite large because I’ve been using Gnucash for some
time.

A friend introduced it to me back then to help manage finances and I’ve
been using it since.

Thanks again!

On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 at 11:28 pm, David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I don't profess to have any great ideas, but I see from the one screenshot
> that your file opens, but appears to be empty, and I see from the other
> that you have numerous large log files (9mb or so) on every day of the
> display. Many of them appear to be only a few days old.
>
> Personally, my log files are very small (measured in kilobytes, not
> megabytes), so I am curious what you have been doing to get such large
> files.
>
> David T.
>
> P.S. -- I can't imagine how you ended up using a development version of
> GnuCash, and am sad to hear you've been using it all these years.
> On Oct 20, 2022, at 2:05 PM, Rosepetals <pogichinoy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes it was silly of me. I recall years ago checking if I could update to a
>> newer version but the official site said it was not advised. Then I checked
>> recently and it said yes it was possible so I went on my merry way thinking
>> it would be more streamlined.
>>
>> I may have a backup from 2 years ago on version 2.3.4 but of course that
>> would mean I wouldn’t have the recent 2 years of transactions.
>>
>> The file type is simply File so it may be XML but upon opening it in
>> Notepad it mentions SQLite among the garbled text.
>>
>> I’ll try the trace tonight. For now I’ve left it running on 4.12 for about
>> 30 mins and no result in opening the file as shown in the pic below. I’ve
>> reinstalled 2.3.4 and tried opening the file but it’s stuck on reading.
>> Will leave this for a while.
>>
>> Thank for your reply.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 at 4:12 pm, David Cousens <davidcousens49 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>  As Adrien pointed out anytime you do an upgrade of GNuCash you should
>>>  ALWAYS
>>>  make a backup copy of the data file before starting the upgrade and keep
>>>  it at
>>>  least until everything is working. It is a good practice to regularly make
>>>  a
>>>  backup copy of your data file in any case, preferrably to another computer,
>>>  network storage or a cloud (online) storage, usb stick etc. If you have
>>>  problems
>>>  then you can always copy (not move) the file from your backup to your data
>>>  directory and start again. Are you using the xml file (a text file)  or an
>>>  actual database backend?
>>>
>>>  The datafile format sometimes has to be changed to accomodate new features
>>>  and
>>>  fix some bugs. If such changes occur it is usually when changing from the
>>>  last
>>>  version of a major series to the first version of the next. Version 4.x
>>>  will
>>>  assume that the file has already been upgraded from version 2 to version
>>>  3. Each
>>>  new major version of GnuCash includes a procedure for updating the
>>>  datafile the
>>>  first time it is run with a higher version.
>>>
>>>  As well as changes in the datafile itself, there are sometimes changes in
>>>  the
>>>  locations where stored reports and user preference data etc are located.
>>>  These
>>>  are usually translated by the installation procedure for the first install
>>>  of a
>>>  higher major version (2->3->4). The locations are also different on
>>>  different
>>>  operating systems.https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations
>>>  has
>>>  details of the locations for various versions on Linux/Windows/Mac. The
>>>  page can
>>>  be hard to read but there are some diagrams accessed form links about
>>>  halfway
>>>  down the page
>>>
>>>  Not sure how you can recover without a backup of the original file.
>>>
>>>  With a 30Mb file it may take some time to convert the datafile  at startup.
>>>  GnuCash will be unresponsive while this is taking place so don't assume it
>>>  has
>>>  stopped/crashed - use the task manager
>>>  (https://www.howtogeek.com/405806/windows-task-manager-the-complete-guide/)
>>>  to
>>>  check that it is no longer runnning as Adrien suggested and if so let it
>>>  run to
>>>  completion or until it actually crashes.
>>>
>>>  If GnuCash is actually crashing, i.e. it stops running completely, then
>>>  generating a trace file and stack trace file as described in
>>>   https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile and posting them here may help in
>>>  working out if your file can be fixed and how.
>>>
>>>  If you can get your datafile to open, before doing anything else run the
>>>  Actions->Check & Repair->All transactions from the menu.
>>>
>>>  Hope this helps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Wed, 2022-10-19 at 23:11 +1100, Rosepetals wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>  I’m running Windows 11.
>>>>
>>>>  I was running Gnucash 2.3.4 for years and finally decided to upgrade to
>>>>
>>>  the
>>>
>>>>  latest stable release of 4.12 so I can export to a spreadsheet.
>>>>
>>>>  The setup needed to uninstall 2.3.4 which went fine and then 4.12
>>>>
>>>  finished
>>>
>>>>  installing.
>>>>
>>>>  I opened Gnucash 4.12 and opened my Gnucash database. It notified me I
>>>>  needed to upgrade the database to the new version which worked fine and I
>>>>  was able to access all my data. I made a few entries and closed Gnucash
>>>>  without any issues.
>>>>
>>>>  Later I opened Gnucash again but this time it didn’t auto open the
>>>>
>>>  database
>>>
>>>>  and I'm left with a blank screen. I proceed to locate and open the
>>>>
>>>  database
>>>
>>>>  but after waiting for it to load, nothing appears. I try to load it
>>>>  manually in other ways but eventually Gnucash crashes.
>>>>
>>>>  If it helps, the database is 30MB in size.
>>>>
>>>>  Please help. I have 13 years of data here.
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks for looking!
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