[GNC] Help!
Ken Pyzik
pyz01 at outlook.com
Thu Dec 25 19:00:12 EST 2025
Doug - Excellent analysis.
The key is not what Microsoft did with Windows 11 -- it what they have
done strategically as a company. They have gravitated to cloud storage,
subscription based software, cloud backup, and a mindset of the OS as
funnel to their ecosystem. The MS ecosystem increasingly removes the
user from the driver’s seat!
Think about it this way: My computing philosophy is simple:
Local-first. Predictable. Inspectable. Reproducible. The Microsoft
ecosystem is now:
Cloud-first. Adaptive. Opaque. Non-deterministic. It is not that this
is "wrong,” but it’s incompatible with how many systems people want to
govern their environment. Linux gives back the tools that most systems
people value: Predictable package management , no forced cloud
integration; no silent redirection of your files; you choose what runs,
when, and why. Linus simply respects a user's sovereignty. MS in
increasingly taking that away and saying -- "we know what is better than
you!"
What I tell people - “I didn’t leave Microsoft out of frustration. I
left because the architecture no longer aligns with how I think, work,
or teach.”
So while I still use Windows OS, I no longer use Office 365 (Libre
Office), Outlook for e-mail (eM Client), one-drive for storing files (no
cloud storage for my files), or any MS based cloud products. And
someday, I may even leave the OS.
Ken
------ Original Message ------
>From "Doug" <lemans4 at internode.on.net>
To "Ken Pyzik" <pyz01 at outlook.com>
Cc "Nancy Moore" <nmoor02 at gmail.com>; "gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org"
<gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org>
Date 12/25/2025 3:35:33 PM
Subject Re: [GNC] Help!
>This stream makes me thankful I am a Linux user! No worrying about
>hardware upgrades because some foreign Multi-National decides they
>need more control of MY computer!
> I just install or upgrade from the (Linux) distro repositry. Apparently
>many Windows users felt the same after the introduction of W11, &
>moved to Linux. Personally, I use PCLinuxOS, & have used that
>distro for 15 yrs +. Linux user for 20 yrs +, & Gnucash almost as
>long under Linux.
> For those that would like to try Linux, one can download an image of
>PCLinuxOS (& other distros too), burn the distro to a thumbdrive
>using BalenaEtcher or similar, boot the distro & try off the thumbdrive
>(no need to install unless you want to!) As a Windows user you will
>find the system not that dissimilar to using Windows, & most of the
>functionality is similar. (Did Windows copy Linux? Who knows: very TIC)
>
>Happy New Year to all. & pls take this comment as a helpful hint, not
>as a derogatory comment on Windows, that I feel has made a tactical error
>on the move to W11. One can only milk a cow so far until the cow starts
>complaining!
>
>regards, Doug
>
>
>On Thu, 25 Dec 2025 22:57:04 +0000
>"Ken Pyzik" <pyz01 at outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> Nancy-- I think you are on the right track now. My bet is if the repair
>> shop assisted to get you logged into your computer -- that whatever they
>> used, or did, somehow may now be interfering with your ability to
>> install GNUcash.
>>
>> Without be too wordy - GNUCash is open source. Many virus-protection
>> softwares do NOT like open source because they are excellent candidates
>> to get viruses or Trojans attached to them. So they err on the side of
>> conservatism and if they do not think they know the source they block
>> it. This is why you see several "false" positives. If you think about
>> it, as a consumer, you would much rather have a "false" postive then the
>> opposite -- allowing unknown to get to your computer. That is why
>> anti-virus is a mixed blessing. It protects you well, but can also
>> thwart you when you don't want it to.
>>
>> My gut tells me if you explain to them the behavior you are seeing --
>> that they will be able to not only fix the issue - but probably get
>> GNUCash 5.14 installed with little issue. Best of Luck to you.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From "Nancy Moore" <nmoor02 at gmail.com>
>> To "Ken Pyzik" <pyz01 at outlook.com>
>> Cc "tresmont.eugene" <tresmont.eugene at pm.me>; "R Losey"
>> <rlosey at gmail.com>; "gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org"
>> <gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org>
>> Date 12/25/2025 1:40:42 PM
>> Subject Re: Re[2]: [GNC] Help!
>>
>> > Under Settings>Window Security>Virus & Threat Protection>Security
>> >Providers it shows
>> >
>> >Avast Antivirus
>> >Avast Antivirus is turned off
>> >
>> >Microsoft Defender Antivirus
>> >Microsoft Defender Antivirus is turned off
>> >
>> >OpenText(TM) Core Endpoint Protection ((TM) indicates a raised
>> >capital small TM indicating trademark)
>> >OpenText(TM) Core Endpoint Protection is turned on
>> >
>> >The latter shows no way to turn it off.
>> >
>> >Come to think of it, I did take my computer in for repair sometime in
>> >the last few years (I was unable to logon--nothing happened when I
>> >tried). The place I took it to, across the street, got it running
>> >again, and I think they may have installed that. Unless you can
>> >suggest a suggestion today, I may take it back there tomorrow and see
>> >what they can do to help (including maybe installing 5.14). After that
>> >I won't be home until January to try and figure it out (and see whether
>> >they are able to fix it).
>> >
>> >Thanks for your help.
>> >
>> >Nancy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Thu, Dec 25, 2025 at 2:51 PM Ken Pyzik <pyz01 at outlook.com> wrote:
>> >>I have Malwarebytes and my GnuCash installed with no issues. Other
>> >>virus-protection software are being overly aggressive and flagging the
>> >>open sources programs as viruses. As long as you know that you are
>> >>downloading from a known sources (SourceForge) you should be OK to
>> >>just
>> >>disable Avast Premium and turn it back on after you install.
>> >>
>> >>Secondly, make sure to report the false positive to Avast.
>> >>
>> >>Ken
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>------ Original Message ------
>> >>From "tresmont.eugene via gnucash-user" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>> >>To "R Losey" <rlosey at gmail.com>
>> >>Cc "gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org" <gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org>;
>> >>"Nancy Moore" <nmoor02 at gmail.com>
>> >>Date 12/25/2025 11:00:13 AM
>> >>Subject Re: [GNC] Help!
>> >>
>> >> >5.14 download withavast premium shows 3 trojans and immediately moves
>> >>download to quarantine... Any information would be appreciated
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Sent from Proton Mail for Android.
>> >> >
>> >> >-------- Original Message --------
>> >> >On Thursday, 12/25/25 at 09:06 R Losey <rlosey at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >You may not have any anti-virus installed, but what about Windows
>> >> >Defender? Could that be interfering with the installation?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >On Wed, Dec 24, 2025 at 11:02 PM Nancy Moore <nmoor02 at gmail.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This is my personal desktop machine. No anti-virus product
>> >>installed--I
>> >> >> used to have Avast (free version) but it's nowhere to be found
>> >>now, so I'm
>> >> >> installing it now.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >_________________________________
>> >> >Richard Losey
>> >> >rlosey at gmail.com
>> >> >Micah 6:8
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