[GNC] Help!
Nancy Moore
nmoor02 at gmail.com
Fri Dec 26 15:52:15 EST 2025
Thank you very much to everyone who replied. I took my computer back
to the place where I had it fixed earlier, and they set up the antivirus
software they had installed so I have control over what it allows. It had
quarantined libicuin76.dll, and when I indicated it should be allowed
instead of blocked, I was able to install gnucash 5.14 successfully!!
(They didn't even charge me for their time and labor.)
Thanks again,
Nancy
On Thu, Dec 25, 2025 at 6:00 PM Ken Pyzik <pyz01 at outlook.com> wrote:
> Doug - Excellent analysis.
>
> The key is not what Microsoft did with Windows 11 -- it what they have
> done strategically as a company. They have gravitated to cloud storage,
> subscription based software, cloud backup, and a mindset of the OS as
> funnel to their ecosystem. The MS ecosystem increasingly removes the
> user from the driver’s seat!
>
> Think about it this way: My computing philosophy is simple:
> Local-first. Predictable. Inspectable. Reproducible. The Microsoft
> ecosystem is now:
> Cloud-first. Adaptive. Opaque. Non-deterministic. It is not that this
> is "wrong,” but it’s incompatible with how many systems people want to
> govern their environment. Linux gives back the tools that most systems
> people value: Predictable package management , no forced cloud
> integration; no silent redirection of your files; you choose what runs,
> when, and why. Linus simply respects a user's sovereignty. MS in
> increasingly taking that away and saying -- "we know what is better than
> you!"
>
> What I tell people - “I didn’t leave Microsoft out of frustration. I
> left because the architecture no longer aligns with how I think, work,
> or teach.”
>
> So while I still use Windows OS, I no longer use Office 365 (Libre
> Office), Outlook for e-mail (eM Client), one-drive for storing files (no
> cloud storage for my files), or any MS based cloud products. And
> someday, I may even leave the OS.
>
> Ken
> ------ Original Message ------
> From "Doug" <lemans4 at internode.on.net>
> To "Ken Pyzik" <pyz01 at outlook.com>
> Cc "Nancy Moore" <nmoor02 at gmail.com>; "gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org"
> <gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org>
> Date 12/25/2025 3:35:33 PM
> Subject Re: [GNC] Help!
>
> >This stream makes me thankful I am a Linux user! No worrying about
> >hardware upgrades because some foreign Multi-National decides they
> >need more control of MY computer!
> > I just install or upgrade from the (Linux) distro repositry. Apparently
> >many Windows users felt the same after the introduction of W11, &
> >moved to Linux. Personally, I use PCLinuxOS, & have used that
> >distro for 15 yrs +. Linux user for 20 yrs +, & Gnucash almost as
> >long under Linux.
> > For those that would like to try Linux, one can download an image of
> >PCLinuxOS (& other distros too), burn the distro to a thumbdrive
> >using BalenaEtcher or similar, boot the distro & try off the thumbdrive
> >(no need to install unless you want to!) As a Windows user you will
> >find the system not that dissimilar to using Windows, & most of the
> >functionality is similar. (Did Windows copy Linux? Who knows: very TIC)
> >
> >Happy New Year to all. & pls take this comment as a helpful hint, not
> >as a derogatory comment on Windows, that I feel has made a tactical error
> >on the move to W11. One can only milk a cow so far until the cow starts
> >complaining!
> >
> >regards, Doug
> >
> >
> >On Thu, 25 Dec 2025 22:57:04 +0000
> >"Ken Pyzik" <pyz01 at outlook.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Nancy-- I think you are on the right track now. My bet is if the
> repair
> >> shop assisted to get you logged into your computer -- that whatever
> they
> >> used, or did, somehow may now be interfering with your ability to
> >> install GNUcash.
> >>
> >> Without be too wordy - GNUCash is open source. Many virus-protection
> >> softwares do NOT like open source because they are excellent candidates
> >> to get viruses or Trojans attached to them. So they err on the side of
> >> conservatism and if they do not think they know the source they block
> >> it. This is why you see several "false" positives. If you think about
> >> it, as a consumer, you would much rather have a "false" postive then
> the
> >> opposite -- allowing unknown to get to your computer. That is why
> >> anti-virus is a mixed blessing. It protects you well, but can also
> >> thwart you when you don't want it to.
> >>
> >> My gut tells me if you explain to them the behavior you are seeing --
> >> that they will be able to not only fix the issue - but probably get
> >> GNUCash 5.14 installed with little issue. Best of Luck to you.
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >>
> >> ------ Original Message ------
> >> From "Nancy Moore" <nmoor02 at gmail.com>
> >> To "Ken Pyzik" <pyz01 at outlook.com>
> >> Cc "tresmont.eugene" <tresmont.eugene at pm.me>; "R Losey"
> >> <rlosey at gmail.com>; "gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org"
> >> <gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org>
> >> Date 12/25/2025 1:40:42 PM
> >> Subject Re: Re[2]: [GNC] Help!
> >>
> >> > Under Settings>Window Security>Virus & Threat Protection>Security
> >> >Providers it shows
> >> >
> >> >Avast Antivirus
> >> >Avast Antivirus is turned off
> >> >
> >> >Microsoft Defender Antivirus
> >> >Microsoft Defender Antivirus is turned off
> >> >
> >> >OpenText(TM) Core Endpoint Protection ((TM) indicates a raised
> >> >capital small TM indicating trademark)
> >> >OpenText(TM) Core Endpoint Protection is turned on
> >> >
> >> >The latter shows no way to turn it off.
> >> >
> >> >Come to think of it, I did take my computer in for repair sometime in
> >> >the last few years (I was unable to logon--nothing happened when I
> >> >tried). The place I took it to, across the street, got it running
> >> >again, and I think they may have installed that. Unless you can
> >> >suggest a suggestion today, I may take it back there tomorrow and see
> >> >what they can do to help (including maybe installing 5.14). After
> that
> >> >I won't be home until January to try and figure it out (and see
> whether
> >> >they are able to fix it).
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for your help.
> >> >
> >> >Nancy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Thu, Dec 25, 2025 at 2:51 PM Ken Pyzik <pyz01 at outlook.com> wrote:
> >> >>I have Malwarebytes and my GnuCash installed with no issues. Other
> >> >>virus-protection software are being overly aggressive and flagging
> the
> >> >>open sources programs as viruses. As long as you know that you are
> >> >>downloading from a known sources (SourceForge) you should be OK to
> >> >>just
> >> >>disable Avast Premium and turn it back on after you install.
> >> >>
> >> >>Secondly, make sure to report the false positive to Avast.
> >> >>
> >> >>Ken
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>------ Original Message ------
> >> >>From "tresmont.eugene via gnucash-user" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> >> >>To "R Losey" <rlosey at gmail.com>
> >> >>Cc "gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org" <gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
> >;
> >> >>"Nancy Moore" <nmoor02 at gmail.com>
> >> >>Date 12/25/2025 11:00:13 AM
> >> >>Subject Re: [GNC] Help!
> >> >>
> >> >> >5.14 download withavast premium shows 3 trojans and immediately
> moves
> >> >>download to quarantine... Any information would be appreciated
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Sent from Proton Mail for Android.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >-------- Original Message --------
> >> >> >On Thursday, 12/25/25 at 09:06 R Losey <rlosey at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >You may not have any anti-virus installed, but what about Windows
> >> >> >Defender? Could that be interfering with the installation?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On Wed, Dec 24, 2025 at 11:02 PM Nancy Moore <nmoor02 at gmail.com>
> >> >>wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> This is my personal desktop machine. No anti-virus product
> >> >>installed--I
> >> >> >> used to have Avast (free version) but it's nowhere to be found
> >> >>now, so I'm
> >> >> >> installing it now.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >_________________________________
> >> >> >Richard Losey
> >> >> >rlosey at gmail.com
> >> >> >Micah 6:8
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