[GNC] Import troubles

Mon Feb 24 15:13:16 EST 2025

I recon because the matcher doesn't have enough confidence based on settings found in 'Edit' --> 'Preference' --> 'import'.

>From the visual format perspective it make sense to match it, but from the heuristic perspective it matches only 3 of 7 values absolutely so it may not be crossing the confidence threshold.  

Without studying the source code and running in the debug mode, it would be only wild guess what could be the cause ... my system isn't setup to run in the debug mode so not much of help there.

-----Original Message-----
From: "alois müller" <mue at eclipso.at> 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2025 1:58 PM
To: Kalpesh Patel <kalpesh.patel at usa.net>
Cc: davidcousens49 at gmail.com; gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: RE: [GNC] Import troubles

The problem is absolutly mad!

I have reduced it to just 2 transactions:

Date,Payee,Memo,Amount,DebitAmount,DebitAccount,CreditAccount
"2007-03-28","Billa","","5.1100","-5.1100","Girokonto","Essen"
"2008-05-21","Billa","","7.1500","-7.1500","Girokonto","Essen"

I can't see any difference!

The 2nd ist imported correctly whereas the 1st NOT

see attached picture!

all accounts exist. 

WHY are approx. 90% imported and 10% show up RED!!

--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
Von: "Kalpesh Patel" <kalpesh.patel at usa.net>
Datum: 24.02.2025 13:09:23
An: '"alois müller"' <mue at eclipso.at>, 	"'David Cousens'" <davidcousens49 at gmail.com>
Betreff: RE: [GNC] Import troubles

As a side note- you have to teach the matcher how to match transaction as they come in by exposing it at least once. Suggestion is for you to take small sample set to import it first to train it and then import 30K or so all at once. But keep in mind that you will get a window that will still have all transactions in it which will display some that it doesn't know what to do with it (missing check box) and some that can go in many ways, depending upon how it was trained, in which case it could suggest wrong way to handle and you will have to manually correct it. This is the nature of CSV import as transaction fidelity is the lowest compared to other forms of import.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Kalpesh Patel <kalpesh.patel at usa.net>
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2025 6:52 AM
To: '"alois müller"' <mue at eclipso.at>; 'David Cousens' <davidcousens49 at gmail.com>

Cc: 'gnucash-user at gnucash.org' <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: RE: [GNC] Import troubles

>From what I can see, GNC it recognized it and ready to take the next step with it. 

You are at the window where it gives you an opportunity to select which transactions you want to post them into the register, which ones don't, and you elected first one not to be put into any register by having none of the boxes selected.
You have to place a check box in either one of those square boxes (by clicking in it) to tell how to import it in - 'Neu' means import it as a new transaction, 'U + Abgl' means update an existing one and reconcile the transaction, 'Abgl'
means reconcile the transaction (if there was a match found like other three transactions have) and not selecting any skips putting that transaction into any register.  This is likely because the matcher has not come across this transaction in the past to match with so it knows what to do with it, hence none of the boxes are selected and waiting for you to tell what it should with that transaction. After selecting one of the box, double click on the transaction to bring up the list of all accounts from which you can select an applicable contra account to post the transaction into to balance it out.
Next time when it encounters the same transaction, it will pre-populate what it thinks is correct next action, while it will give you opportunity to correct it just like it did this time but most likely the 'Abgl' will be check marked.

Hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: "alois müller" <mue at eclipso.at>
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2025 4:34 AM
To: David Cousens <davidcousens49 at gmail.com>
Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Import troubles

See this attached picture of the import process!

I don't understand why the first transaction is not imported

--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
Von: David Cousens <davidcousens49 at gmail.com>
Datum: 24.02.2025 02:13:21
An: "\"alois" müller" <mue at eclipso.at>, 	gnucash-user at gnucash.org

Betreff: Re: [GNC] Import troubles

Alois,

I set up a dummy data file in GnuCash 5.10 with Asset accounts "Bargeld"
and "Girokonto" and expense accounts "Essen", "Extras, and "Katzen" then put the data from your post into a CSV file and imported

it without any problems. I assigned the headers

Date, Description, Memo, Amount Negated, Amount, Account, Transfer Account

to the fields in the data in that order.  The Amount Negated and Amount were applied to those specific columns so that the debits and credit were made to the correct accounts (credits to the asset accounts and debits to the expense accounts) assuming I have translated the German account names correctly.

With that setup these imported correctly with no problems.

There is a step in the import process where you will have to match the account names to the internal account names the first time you do an import even if the names in the CSV Account and Transfer Account fields

are exactly the same as the account names you have used internally in GnuCash.
 Once that assignment has been made it will be remembered in subsequent imports.

Hope this helps. 

David Cousens

On Mon, 2025-02-24 at 01:11 +0100, "alois müller" via gnucash-user

wrote:
>    I have a large CSV-File with transactions.
>    My problem is, that about 10% of this transaction will not import

>    correct!!
>    See these 4 examples:
>    "2007-03-28","Billa","","5.1100","-5.1100","Girokonto","Essen"

>    "2021-06-14","Spar","Karte: 98","4.00","-4.00","Bargeld","Extras"

>    "2007-03-28","Billa","","0.8500","-0.8500","Girokonto","Katzen"

>    "2021-06-14","Spar","Karte: 98","6.00","-6.00","Bargeld","Katzen"

>    the FIRST will not import!!
>   
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> FA
>   
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>   
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> Bw
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>    Why does the importer NOT take the correct debit account as it does

>    with the 3 others??
>    I have about 30 000 transactions.
>    I can impossibly correct all not working transactions manually.
>    Please help
>     
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