[GNC] e-invoicing ?

[David Cousens]

John,

https://nlnet.nl/project/Peppol-Decentralised/
also has a bit of useful info re implementation of a gateway to the
PEPPOL network which will allow client users not on that network to
send and receive messages from the PEPPOL network proper.

David

On Thu, 2025-03-06 at 19:51 -0800, John Ralls wrote:
> David,
> 
> Good to know. What are the registration requirements, is it the end
> user or the software provider who has to register, and once whoever
> has registered what’s the authentication process to prove that you’re
> who you say you are?
> 
> Would it be feasible to handle this the way some UK users are doing
> MTD, where there are services where one can upload a properly
> formatted document that GnuCash creates with a report?
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> > On Mar 6, 2025, at 18:59, David Cousens <davidcousens49 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Liz, Pascal, John,
> > 
> > 
> > PEPPOL is in use in Australia.
> > (
> > https://www.ato.gov.au/businesses-and-organisations/einvoicing/einvo
> > icing-for-businesses#ato-RegisterforeInvoicing)
> > 
> > It is currently primarily for large scale government-business
> > (where it
> > will likely be mandatory first) and business-business transactions
> > associated with procurement although there is a guide for small
> > business as well however it is not mandatory for small businesses
> > at
> > this stage and may not be.  There is a register of software
> > currently
> > available linked from that page (inc SAP,Xero, MYOB, Reckon etc)
> > which
> > is ready to use the protocol.
> > 
> > The standard document XML formats for AU/NZ are listed on a github
> > https://github.com/A-NZ-PEPPOL/A-NZ-PEPPOL-BIS-3.0/blob/master/Message%20examples/AU%20Order%20Agreement.xml
> > 
> > There are some open source links to software for AS4 access to the
> > PEPPOL network. Both the invoice originator and the recipient have
> > to
> > be registered with that network.
> > 
> > I've taken a quick look at the HOLODECK server setup. You can setup
> > two
> > instances of its server on different ports on the same computer and
> > use
> > them to talk to one another.  Good for getting familiarity if you
> > don't
> > mind talking to youself.  
> > 
> > I have a bit of time waiting for cyclone Alfred to hit us in
> > Brisbane
> > in the next  18-24 hrs so I will have a play to ease the stress of
> > waiting.
> > 
> > Might experiment a bit with sending sample messages from the AU
> > formats
> > site above.  I presume what will be required from an application
> > will
> > be to export the message files in XML format to the server (they
> > are
> > put into an input folder from which they are sent automatically)
> > and
> > interpret any messages which appear in the output folder of the
> > server.
> > The server seems to provide some of the business level information
> > (whose sending, whose receiving etc) so it may be possible that all
> > GnuCash would need is the abiltiy to export a correctly formatted
> > XML
> > file and interpret and import the received XML file,.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2025-03-05 at 19:54 +1100, Liz wrote:
> > > On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 09:34:28 +0100
> > > Pascal Standaert <pascalstandaert at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I'm looking into switching to Gnucash for my accounting, but I
> > > > have
> > > > some worries about the mandatory e-invoicing which is being
> > > > rolled
> > > > out over Europe ...
> > > > 
> > > > https://www.storecove.com/blog/en/peppol-countries/
> > > > 
> > > > https://ec.europa.eu/digital-building-blocks/sites/display/DIGITAL/Obtaining+a+copy+of+the+European+standard+on+eInvoicing
> > > > 
> > > > ... wil Gnucash be able to do this UBL format xml for e-
> > > > invoicing ?
> > > > 
> > > > if not, it would be shear useless to try set it up ... because
> > > > here
> > > > in Belgium this e-invoicing (peppol) wil be mandatory from
> > > > january
> > > > 1st 2026 ...
> > > 
> > > Storecove says PEPPOL is in use in Australia. I've never heard of
> > > it,
> > > and am certainly not using it to invoice anyone.
> > > 
> > > The ATO tells me that Australia has adopted it as a framework.
> > > The
> > > storecove link tells me its mandatory, and I know that it isn't.
> > > https://www.ato.gov.au/businesses-and-organisations/einvoicing/what-is-einvoicing
> > > 
> > > Point? Storecove is not correct there, so are they correct
> > > elsewhere?
> > > 
> > > For your concern, one of our developers is resident in Belgium
> > > and
> > > will
> > > be aware of these hurdles to use of Gnucash.
> > > 
> > > Liz
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