[GNC] e-invoicing ?

Fri Mar 7 11:59:03 EST 2025

David,

Yes, I mentioned them in my reply to Pascal Standaert on Wednesday. It looks like their plan to create a service based on that web server implementation (https://github.com/pondersource/peppol-php) has stalled out.

Regards,
John Ralls.

> On Mar 6, 2025, at 21:42, David Cousens <davidcousens49 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> https://nlnet.nl/project/Peppol-Decentralised/
> also has a bit of useful info re implementation of a gateway to the
> PEPPOL network which will allow client users not on that network to
> send and receive messages from the PEPPOL network proper.
> 
> David
> 
> On Thu, 2025-03-06 at 19:51 -0800, John Ralls wrote:
>> David,
>> 
>> Good to know. What are the registration requirements, is it the end
>> user or the software provider who has to register, and once whoever
>> has registered what’s the authentication process to prove that you’re
>> who you say you are?
>> 
>> Would it be feasible to handle this the way some UK users are doing
>> MTD, where there are services where one can upload a properly
>> formatted document that GnuCash creates with a report?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2025, at 18:59, David Cousens <davidcousens49 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Liz, Pascal, John,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> PEPPOL is in use in Australia.
>>> (
>>> https://www.ato.gov.au/businesses-and-organisations/einvoicing/einvo
>>> icing-for-businesses#ato-RegisterforeInvoicing)
>>> 
>>> It is currently primarily for large scale government-business
>>> (where it
>>> will likely be mandatory first) and business-business transactions
>>> associated with procurement although there is a guide for small
>>> business as well however it is not mandatory for small businesses
>>> at
>>> this stage and may not be.  There is a register of software
>>> currently
>>> available linked from that page (inc SAP,Xero, MYOB, Reckon etc)
>>> which
>>> is ready to use the protocol.
>>> 
>>> The standard document XML formats for AU/NZ are listed on a github
>>> https://github.com/A-NZ-PEPPOL/A-NZ-PEPPOL-BIS-3.0/blob/master/Message%20examples/AU%20Order%20Agreement.xml
>>> 
>>> There are some open source links to software for AS4 access to the
>>> PEPPOL network. Both the invoice originator and the recipient have
>>> to
>>> be registered with that network.
>>> 
>>> I've taken a quick look at the HOLODECK server setup. You can setup
>>> two
>>> instances of its server on different ports on the same computer and
>>> use
>>> them to talk to one another.  Good for getting familiarity if you
>>> don't
>>> mind talking to youself.  
>>> 
>>> I have a bit of time waiting for cyclone Alfred to hit us in
>>> Brisbane
>>> in the next  18-24 hrs so I will have a play to ease the stress of
>>> waiting.
>>> 
>>> Might experiment a bit with sending sample messages from the AU
>>> formats
>>> site above.  I presume what will be required from an application
>>> will
>>> be to export the message files in XML format to the server (they
>>> are
>>> put into an input folder from which they are sent automatically)
>>> and
>>> interpret any messages which appear in the output folder of the
>>> server.
>>> The server seems to provide some of the business level information
>>> (whose sending, whose receiving etc) so it may be possible that all
>>> GnuCash would need is the abiltiy to export a correctly formatted
>>> XML
>>> file and interpret and import the received XML file,.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 2025-03-05 at 19:54 +1100, Liz wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 09:34:28 +0100
>>>> Pascal Standaert <pascalstandaert at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm looking into switching to Gnucash for my accounting, but I
>>>>> have
>>>>> some worries about the mandatory e-invoicing which is being
>>>>> rolled
>>>>> out over Europe ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.storecove.com/blog/en/peppol-countries/
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://ec.europa.eu/digital-building-blocks/sites/display/DIGITAL/Obtaining+a+copy+of+the+European+standard+on+eInvoicing
>>>>> 
>>>>> ... wil Gnucash be able to do this UBL format xml for e-
>>>>> invoicing ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> if not, it would be shear useless to try set it up ... because
>>>>> here
>>>>> in Belgium this e-invoicing (peppol) wil be mandatory from
>>>>> january
>>>>> 1st 2026 ...
>>>> 
>>>> Storecove says PEPPOL is in use in Australia. I've never heard of
>>>> it,
>>>> and am certainly not using it to invoice anyone.
>>>> 
>>>> The ATO tells me that Australia has adopted it as a framework.
>>>> The
>>>> storecove link tells me its mandatory, and I know that it isn't.
>>>> https://www.ato.gov.au/businesses-and-organisations/einvoicing/what-is-einvoicing
>>>> 
>>>> Point? Storecove is not correct there, so are they correct
>>>> elsewhere?
>>>> 
>>>> For your concern, one of our developers is resident in Belgium
>>>> and
>>>> will
>>>> be aware of these hurdles to use of Gnucash.
>>>> 
>>>> Liz
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