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David T. sunfish62 at
Tue May 30 01:41:24 EDT 2017

Your points about the Documentation web page are well-taken. I will consider what changes might be made there to better direct new users--in a separate thread. 
FWIW,  I am sunfish62 on the wiki. 

  On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 9:14, doncram<doncram at> wrote:   
To David T. and John --- Okay I have to apologize.  I didn't look carefully at the "Documentation" page at the website.  Each time I went there, I saw just the first section, whose entire text is:

There are two major GnuCash documentation packages to help users:
   - The Help Manual
   - The Tutorial and Concepts Guide

The Help Manual is designed to be a quick reference of how to accomplish specific tasks and how to use the features in GnuCash. The Concepts Guide is designed to be an in depth guide to the concepts behind using GnuCash with a tutorial to show how to put those concepts into practice.

Additionally, you can talk to someone via IRC at channel #gnucash about your question. Another resource is the English or Deutsch GnuCash wikis.

You can also send an email to the gnucash-user mailing list if you cannot find a satisfactory answer to your question within either the Help Manual or the Tutorial and Concepts Guide. We want feedback from you, it is also through your comments that we know how to improve the documentation.

GnuCash's documentation has been created by its community. See the Writing Documentation page if you are interested in contributing to this effort.

​That seemed to wrap it all up, i thought it was done, I did not see the following sections which have other stuff.  So I was completely wrong in my comments.  (It is a possible small side thing, that maybe the "Documentation" page there is confusing, because it confused me, but that is off-topic here.)  I am sincerely sorry for being confused and causing confusion.
About the current draft webpage, at, I am glad to see that "sunfish62" edited there already, fixing or improving from how I had left it.  Perhaps it is good to go now.  I think I should bug out now.

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:45 PM, David T. <sunfish62 at> wrote:


On May 29, 2017, at 10:24 PM, doncram <doncram at> wrote:
About the suggested content now at GnuCash/sandbox, one objection that I have is that it refers readers to a Documentation page at the main website which provides nothing for them (it only contains links to the Help manual and the Tutorial and Concept Guide, and no other documentation). Specifically, the current content includes:
"For the latest documentation (i.e., unstable releases of the documentation), or to get documentation for other languages or earlier releases, see the [ phtml Documentation] page on the website."
It seems like a false statement, that a reader could get latest documentation or anything else there.  The content already does link to versions of the Help manual and the Tutorial and Concept Guide.  Are you suggesting those are not the latest versions?  Should the content clarify what versions they are?   

I agree with John’s comments about the utility of the main website documentation page. 
Moreover, the wiki links to the Help and Guide are to the most recent *stable* release of the documentation. As you may know, the documentation uses the same bug management process and version control to manage the docs. Changes that are accepted in the docs but not yet published in the official release (the “Nightly Documentation Builds”) may describe features that have not been implemented in the current release. This parallels the idea of the program’s nightly builds. They are called “unstable” for a reason, and this term is used in this project and in others to denote this. I have modified the sentence a little to bring this out a little more, but I do believe that it is clear what is on the web page. 

I am sort of afraid it may be impossible to come to any agreement about any wording, because there are too many people involved (and I guess I am now part of the problem).  I do hope that I am helping by suggesting that a clear proposal needs to be made by a complete new version at the sandbox.  The version there is deficient in my view in this one small way, at least.  --Don


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