[Gnucash-fr] Manual in French

[Kerspern Nicolas Wanadoo.fr]

Hi Guys,

Oups, oh sorry, I understand now better and that changes everything, I had
never done courses accountant or treasurer. 

Thanks @Johon and Thanks @Geert

Nicolas

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Geert Janssens [mailto:geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be] 
Envoyé : lundi 22 septembre 2014 19:23
À : gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Cc : Kerspern Nicolas Wanadoo.fr; 'John Ralls'; gnucash-fr at gnucash.org
Objet : Re: Manual in French

Hi Nicolas,

You are confusing bank terminology with accounting terminology.

A bank will call a deposit to your bank account a credit and a 
withdrawal a debit. That is because that's how the bank has to book 
these transactions in *the bank's books*.

When you deposit money on your bank account the bank owes you that 
money, which makes it a liability for the bank. In accounting 
terminology increasing a liability is a credit.

In *your books* however, the money you put on your bank account is an 
asset. And increasing an asset is a debit.

Your second screen shot uses the terms your bank would use which are the 
proper terms for their books. For your books things are different.

If you find this confusing I can agree it is. That's why gnucash offers 
the alternative names "Dépôt" and "Retrait" because most people that are 
not accountants find these more intuitive.

Hopefully this explains it a bit better.

Geert

On Saturday 20 September 2014 16:39:40 Kerspern Nicolas Wanadoo.fr 
wrote:
> Hi John
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> I’m always understand and I seem I’m not alone, you send that it’s
> good see figure 1, but I found on tutorial in French see figure 2 and
> it’s true good
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> Thanks
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> Nicolas
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>   _____
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> De : John Ralls [mailto:jralls at ceridwen.us]
> Envoyé : jeudi 14 août 2014 02:21
> À : Kerspern Nicolas Wanadoo.fr
> Cc : gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Objet : Re: Manual in French
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> On Aug 13, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Kerspern Nicolas Wanadoo.fr
> <kerspern.nicolas at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
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> Hi
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> I agree with you but this result show us than :
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> "Utiliser la terminologie comptable" : off
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> "Utiliser la terminologie comptable" : on
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> Can you tell me that it’s good or not ?
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> It's good.
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> Regards,
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> John Ralls
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> On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:01 AM, Kerspern Nicolas Wanadoo.fr
> 
> <kerspern.nicolas at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > Hi
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> > @John, thanks
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> > 
> > @users,
> > 
> > From gnucash-2.6.3 (01-04-2014) Windows,
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> > I seem that the translation made a mistake:
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> > When:
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> > (in EN)
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> > In Preference>Account>Labels>Use formal accounting labels > Set
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> > And (in FR)
> > 
> > Préférence>Comptes>Labels>Utiliser la terminologie comptable> Cocher
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> > Dysfunction:
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> > We found, in account/bank list, two columns which switched may be
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> > wrong in French:
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> > (Débit => Dépôt) and (Crédit => Retrait)
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> > 
> > Please switch:
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> > (Débit => Retrait) and (Crédit => Dépôt)
> > 
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> > 
> > And not:
> > 
> > (Débit => Dépôt) and (Crédit => Retrait)
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> By default GnuCash uses (in English) "Deposit" and "Withdraw" for
> Accounts of type BANK. Those are translated in French to "Dépôt" and
> "Retrait". If you want to see "Débit" and "Crédit" ("Debit" and
> "Credit" in English), please go to Preferences>Accounts and check the
> "Utiliser la terminologie comptable" box.
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> Note that in formal accounting adding money to an asset account is a
> debit and removing it is a credit. Please see
> <http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comptabilit%C3%A9_d%27entreprise#D.C3.A9
> bit_.2 8Dt.29.2C_cr.C3.A9dit_.28Ct.29>
> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comptabilit%C3%A9_d%27entreprise#D.C3.A9b
> it_.28 Dt.29.2C_cr.C3.A9dit_.28Ct.29
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> Regards,
> 
> John Ralls