Gnome2 Port
Tom Haskins-Vaughan
tom at meandmini.com
Fri Apr 1 04:34:30 EST 2005
Gnome 2.8
Ben Pracht wrote:
> At the risk of asking a dumb question, I'm running FC3 what version of
> Gnome I'm I running? I'm not sure how I'd know.
>
> Regards,
> Ben
>
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. RE: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>> (ted creedon)
>> 2. RE: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>> (Josh Sled)
>> 3. RE: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>> (ted creedon)
>> 4. RE: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>> (Josh Sled)
>> 5. RE: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>> (ted creedon)
>> 6. year end, already ! (David J Patrick)
>> 7. Re: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>> (Neil Williams)
>> 8. Re: year end, already ! (Derek Atkins)
>> 9. Re: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>> (Derek Atkins)
>> 10. Re: year end, already ! (David J Patrick)
>> 11. Re: year end, already ! (David J Patrick)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:59:02 -0800
>> From: "ted creedon" <tcreedon at easystreet.com>
>> Subject: RE: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>> Cc: "'GnuCash'" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>> Message-ID: <20050326195903.BA496B013 at smtpauth.easystreet.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> 1. What business functionality is not supported with postgresql?
>> 2. The "not under active development" comment seems to conflict with
>> e-mails
>> by others.
>> 3. I hope the relational database interface will not be intentionally
>> disabled because:
>> A. Using a relational database should force a decent object oriented data
>> design upon the developers.
>> B. Gnucash's flexibility would be severely compromised.
>>
>> 4. I have a Microsoft's Visioin 2003 Enterprise ORM design package
>> installed
>> on one of my windows boxes and would be glad to hand enter or otherwise
>> participate in an object oriented data design workshop. (I actually
>> have the
>> Visio reverese engineered gnucash/postgresql data design but haven't had
>> time to study it).
>> 5. Suggest reading "Informational Modeling and Relational Databases",
>> Halpin, isbn 1 55860 672 6.
>> 6. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/CH010266601033.aspx
>> 7. http://www.orm.net/halpin.html
>>
>> tedc
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gnucash-user-bounces at gnucash.org
>> [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces at gnucash.org] On Behalf Of Vincent Ngundi
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 10:46 PM
>> To: mevanecek at yahoo.com
>> Cc: GnuCash
>> Subject: Re: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>>
>> Thanks Matthew, I'll try that out...
>>
>> Vincent.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 03:44, Matthew Vanecek wrote:
>>
>>
>>> <quote who="Josh Sled">
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:32, Vincent Ngundi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just wanted to ask, has anyone ever successfully used GnuCash with
>>>>> a PostgreSQL database in Linux(I'm using Redhat 9).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would venture to guess a very small number of people.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I keep getting the following error when I try to save as either:
>>>>>
>>>>> postgres://localhost/template1?user="username"
>>>>> postgres://localhost/template1"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That sounds like a funny name for a gnucash database...
>>>>
>>>> How did you create 'template1'?
>>>>
>>>> What is in the table 'gncVersion'?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Please help me out!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The postgres backend isn't really supported. Specifically, none of
>>>> the active devs use it, it doesn't support all the features of
>>>> GnuCash [scheduled transactions and business objects especially],
>>>> and we intend to replace it.
>>>>
>>>> The best help you're going to get is from yourself and the sources.
>>>>
>>>> ...jsled
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't use template1--that's the default database Postgresql creates.
>>> Use the name of a database that does not exist, and let Gnucash
>>> create the database internally. Connecting to an existing empty
>>> database (i.e., a database that does not contain any Gnucash tables)
>>> is not supported and will generate that (somewhat deceptive) error.
>>>
>>> The Postgresql backend is not under active development. E.g., it
>>> does not support scheduled transactions or any of the business
>>> functionality.
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:55:02 -0500
>> From: Josh Sled <jsled at asynchronous.org>
>> Subject: RE: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>> To: ted creedon <tcreedon at easystreet.com>
>> Cc: 'GnuCash' <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>> Message-ID: <1111870502.13339.9.camel at phoenix>
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>
>> On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 14:59, ted creedon wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> 1. What business functionality is not supported with postgresql?
>>>
>>
>>
>> All of it.
>>
>>
>>
>>> 2. The "not under active development" comment seems to conflict with
>>> e-mails
>>> by others.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The interface you are attempting to use is not under active development.
>>
>> The desire and intent is to use another means (generically connecting
>> QOF to a DB backend) to provide database support.
>>
>> This will require that scheduled transactions, at least but primarily,
>> be "QOF"-ized; the business and other engine datatypes are already.
>>
>>
>>
>>> 3. I hope the relational database interface will not be intentionally
>>> disabled because:
>>> A. Using a relational database should force a decent object oriented
>>> data
>>> design upon the developers.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I've seen horrendous data-models that are still relational, and
>> appropriate object models that don't translate easily into relational.
>>
>>
>>
>>> B. Gnucash's flexibility would be severely compromised.
>>>
>>
>>
>> What do you mean?
>>
>>
>>
>>> 4. I have a Microsoft's Visioin 2003 Enterprise ORM design package
>>> installed
>>> on one of my windows boxes and would be glad to hand enter or otherwise
>>> participate in an object oriented data design workshop. (I actually
>>> have the
>>> Visio reverese engineered gnucash/postgresql data design but haven't had
>>> time to study it).
>>>
>>
>>
>> What would this accomplish?
>>
>>
>>
>>> 5. Suggest reading "Informational Modeling and Relational Databases",
>>> Halpin, isbn 1 55860 672 6.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The problem here isn't that the gnucash developers are stupid or
>> ignorant about how to use a database; it's strictly a matter of
>> development resources. We don't need a picture of what the tables do or
>> should look like; we need code to get it all working. Moreover, we need
>> the Gnome2 port finished first.
>>
>> ...jsled
>>
>>
>>
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