Fedora and computing in general.

[Jean-David Beyer]

John Boyle wrote:

> To Chris Negus: Today, I got my Linux computer back from the shop where 
> I usually go when all the alleged updates show up that include a kernal 
> change! For Some reason RedHat and Fedora cannot make the kernal changes 
> user friendly and, unless you are a computer guru and work with the 
> technical side on a regular basis, the changes CANNOT be installed 
> without screwing up your computer!!!!!

I find this incredible. I have been using Red Hat Linux since it was 5.0,
including 5.2, 6.0, 6.2, and 7.3. I am currently running Red Hat Enterprise
Linux 5. I ran Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 for about three years before that.
I have usually had two machines at a time, and for about a year I had three
machines running at once. These are usually running 24/7.

I have never had any problems with kernel updates and kernel changes except
once long ago when RHEL3 first came out, and one of the RPMs had a
permission bug where it gave some critical file the wrong permissions so I
could not even log in. But since I could not log in, it was difficult to
figure out what the file even was. I simply restored everything from that
morning's backup tape and figured out what the bad file permissions were. By
then, a matter of a few hours, Red Hat already had the update out to fix that.

> I am talking as a user, not as a 
> technician nor a programmer, which I am NEITHER! It is absolutely NO 
> wonder why people shy away from Linux, entirely, with all the constant 
> "update and upgrade" garbage that goes on, and yet the idiots who 
> program the code CANNOT and WILL NOT understand that very fact!

What fact? At least in Linux, if there is a bug they fix it right away, and
do not wait until they have one huge update a month or more later. And the
updates are not that frequent. With the RHEL distros, after the first month
or so, the updates are usually only every few weeks, and kernel updates are
even less frequent.

> It is 
> very clear to me that they are NOT interested in making Linux truly user 
> friendly, whatsoever! I have tried SuSe before this and found it to be 
> very user unfriendly, with no relief in sight! AND I am afraid that 
> Fedora/Redhat is not that much better! You just cannot go on changing 
> versions which DO NOT improve what was already out

Red Hat change their RHEL distributions only about once every year and a
half, and since they support any given version for 7 years, you do not have
to change versions unless you want the new features. If I thought you were
serious, I would recommend you get a subscription to the latest release of
Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

> and keep a straight 
> face when asked by a Windows user, WHY BOTHER? Linux WILL NEVER overcome 
> Windows until it gets its act together and can field a product that can 
> STAND on its own feet for a longer period than 6 months!  UNTIL LINUX OF 
> ANY VERSION CAN FIELD A PRODUCT THAT IS TRULY USER FRIENDLY AND THAT CAN 
> LAST LONGER THAN 12 MONTHS BETWEEN CHANGES IT WILL NEVER BE AS 
> WIDESPREAD AS WINDOWS NOR AS ACCEPTED EITHER!

RHEL distributions go 84 months with support. Can Windows claim the same?

> AND, YES, I AM YELLING, 
> BECAUSE I AM TIRED OF ALL THE SHENANIGANS THAT GO ON AND I AM SURE LINUS 
> THORVALD NEVER MEANT FOR THIS GARBAGE TO HAPPEN! >:o

You should be careful of all those capital letters like that. There are some
people who would infer from that that you are a troll.

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