Reconciling questions

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

What was the posted date of the $91.14 transaction?
What was the date you entered for the April reconciliation?
What version of GnuCash are you using?

I've never seen this behavior myself.   There is absolutely no
requirements that you pre-clear a transaction prior to reconciliation,
and indeed I rarely do that myself.  Generally I click on the transactions
in the reconcile window, and I've never seen this behavior.

-derek

Quoting tzakharov at charter.net:

> I'm sorry, I don't think I made myself clear.  I never tried to 
> reconcile a future transaction.  What led you to believe I meant that?
>
> Let me provide a little more detail.  First, I input all my 
> transactions from Jan to present prior to doing any reconciling (this 
> is why I'm reconciling older transactions right now). In my April 
> statement was a transaction for $91.14.  Somehow, during the 
> reconciliation process, this single transaction did not get marked as 
> reconciled, even though I manually ticked the check box next to the 
> transaction while reconciling, and even though the balances zeroed 
> out while reconciling.  Perhaps this is because I manually ticked the 
> box?  I'm not sure why (maybe I forgot to clear it before 
> reconciling), but this was the ONLY transaction that did not 
> automatically have a tick in the check box.  Anyhow, after I finished 
> reconciling that month, I noticed the $91.14 transaction still had a 
> "c" instead of a "y" like all the other transactions in that 
> statement period.
>
> In May's statement (it ended May 21, maybe this is where you got 
> confused?), when I started to reconcile, the $91.14 transaction 
> showed up on the first line.  After going through the May statement, 
> again I got the balances to zero out with the correct ending balance 
> (the starting balance was $91.14 more than my May statement because 
> of that one transaction).  But when I finished reconciling the May 
> statement, there was once again one transaction that was not 
> reconciled even though it was part of the May statement and I ticked 
> the checkbox while reconciling.  This time it was a deposit for my 
> salary, and it happened to be the last transaction on my May 
> statement.  Could the fact that I had the $91.14 transaction tacked 
> on to the front of the May statement have pushed the last transaction 
> off?
>
> I hope this makes more sense.
>
> Thanks.
> ---- Derek Atkins <warlord at MIT.EDU> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Quoting timzak <tzakharov at charter.net>:
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks for the reply.  I decided to go ahead and reconcile against my bank
>> > statements.  All went well until March or April's statement (can't 
>> remember
>> > which as the date of the transaction in question is right on the border).
>> > Basically, there was a single transaction that didn't get automatically
>> > selected during the reconcile process, I think because it was a split
>> > transaction and I forgot to set it as cleared.  So in the Reconcile menu,
>> > this transaction was unchecked.  I checked it, and the reconcile 
>> process got
>> > balanced to zero (as it should).  However, when I finished 
>> reconciling, that
>> > transaction only showed a "c", not a "y" like it should if it had been
>> > reconciled.  I wasn't sure what happened, and could not figure out 
>> how to go
>> > back and reconcile just the one transaction, so I moved on to the next
>> > month's statement and saw that the transaction in question showed 
>> up in the
>> > next statement's reconciliation window.  Again, I went through each
>> > transaction, noting that they all had checks next to them.  When I got to
>> > the end, I noticed one deposit of salary that was not checked, and the
>> > balance was off by that same amount.  So I put a check next to 
>> that deposit
>> > (it was the last transaction on that month's statement), and saw the
>> > balances get to zero (balanced the month).  Everything looked great, so I
>> > applied the reconciliation.  This time I noticed that the original
>> > transaction that didn't get reconciled, was now reconciled.  Yay!  
>> However,
>> > now this last deposit that I had to manually check in the reconcile window
>> > does not show as reconciled!  It has a "c" instead of a "y" just like the
>> > original one I mentioned.  It appears now that I have to wait til next
>> > month's statement and tack this one onto next months to reconcile it,
>> > leaving me to wonder if there will be another transaction that 
>> this happens
>> > with, leaving me in some weird endless loop.  Does this sound 
>> familiar?  Do
>> > you have any way to help me?  Am I making any sense?
>> > javascript:Nabble.smiley('anim_confused.gif',':confused:')
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>>
>> I'm afraid it does not sound familiar, but it also doesn't sound all
>> that surprising..   How can a transaction that happened in the future
>> get reconciled?  E.g., if you took money out of an ATM on May 23rd,
>> how could it show up on a statement dated May 22nd?
>>
>> To me it sounds like you're entering in the incorrect statement
>> date, or your marking your transaction dates incorrectly.
>>
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>>
>> -derek
>> --
>>        Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory
>>        Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board  (SIPB)
>>        URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/    PP-ASEL-IA     N1NWH
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>
>



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       Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory
       Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board  (SIPB)
       URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/    PP-ASEL-IA     N1NWH
       warlord at MIT.EDU                        PGP key available