Reconciling questions

Fri May 23 18:43:58 EDT 2008

Okay, I was going by memory on my last post.  Now I'm in front of my
computer and see that this was actually a March statement, not April.

So, the posted date was 3/17/08 and the date I entered in Gnucash was
also 3/17/08.  Incidentally, I split this transaction into three
categories (groceries, clothing, holiday) as we purchased a variety of
items from a single store.  Perhaps I did something during the split
that caused this?

Currently, this transaction is reconciled, as I described in my last
post.  It was reconciled as part of the May statement.  That means I
hadn't resolved this as I was reconciling April, so it rolled over as
the first unreconciled transaction as I was reconciling the May
statement.

I am using version 2.2.4.  This is the version in the Ubuntu Hardy
repositories.  I installed from Synaptic; I did not compile myself.

As I look at my checking account in Gnucash, I see that 5/16/08 deposit
that did not reconcile (shows the "c" instead of "y") even though I saw
it in the reconcile window and ticked the checkbox next to it.  How do I
reconcile a single transaction...is it possible?

I have a feeling this is not a bug, but somehow related to a mistake I
made while splitting that original 3/17 transaction.  How I think this
happened, I can't say.  I just would like that 5/16 transaction to have
a "y" next to it.

Any more ideas?

Thanks for your time.

On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 15:56 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> What was the posted date of the $91.14 transaction?
> What was the date you entered for the April reconciliation?
> What version of GnuCash are you using?
> 
> I've never seen this behavior myself.   There is absolutely no
> requirements that you pre-clear a transaction prior to reconciliation,
> and indeed I rarely do that myself.  Generally I click on the transactions
> in the reconcile window, and I've never seen this behavior.
> 
> -derek
> 
> Quoting tzakharov at charter.net:
> 
> > I'm sorry, I don't think I made myself clear.  I never tried to 
> > reconcile a future transaction.  What led you to believe I meant that?
> >
> > Let me provide a little more detail.  First, I input all my 
> > transactions from Jan to present prior to doing any reconciling (this 
> > is why I'm reconciling older transactions right now). In my April 
> > statement was a transaction for $91.14.  Somehow, during the 
> > reconciliation process, this single transaction did not get marked as 
> > reconciled, even though I manually ticked the check box next to the 
> > transaction while reconciling, and even though the balances zeroed 
> > out while reconciling.  Perhaps this is because I manually ticked the 
> > box?  I'm not sure why (maybe I forgot to clear it before 
> > reconciling), but this was the ONLY transaction that did not 
> > automatically have a tick in the check box.  Anyhow, after I finished 
> > reconciling that month, I noticed the $91.14 transaction still had a 
> > "c" instead of a "y" like all the other transactions in that 
> > statement period.
> >
> > In May's statement (it ended May 21, maybe this is where you got 
> > confused?), when I started to reconcile, the $91.14 transaction 
> > showed up on the first line.  After going through the May statement, 
> > again I got the balances to zero out with the correct ending balance 
> > (the starting balance was $91.14 more than my May statement because 
> > of that one transaction).  But when I finished reconciling the May 
> > statement, there was once again one transaction that was not 
> > reconciled even though it was part of the May statement and I ticked 
> > the checkbox while reconciling.  This time it was a deposit for my 
> > salary, and it happened to be the last transaction on my May 
> > statement.  Could the fact that I had the $91.14 transaction tacked 
> > on to the front of the May statement have pushed the last transaction 
> > off?
> >
> > I hope this makes more sense.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > ---- Derek Atkins <warlord at MIT.EDU> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Quoting timzak <tzakharov at charter.net>:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the reply.  I decided to go ahead and reconcile against my bank
> >> > statements.  All went well until March or April's statement (can't 
> >> remember
> >> > which as the date of the transaction in question is right on the border).
> >> > Basically, there was a single transaction that didn't get automatically
> >> > selected during the reconcile process, I think because it was a split
> >> > transaction and I forgot to set it as cleared.  So in the Reconcile menu,
> >> > this transaction was unchecked.  I checked it, and the reconcile 
> >> process got
> >> > balanced to zero (as it should).  However, when I finished 
> >> reconciling, that
> >> > transaction only showed a "c", not a "y" like it should if it had been
> >> > reconciled.  I wasn't sure what happened, and could not figure out 
> >> how to go
> >> > back and reconcile just the one transaction, so I moved on to the next
> >> > month's statement and saw that the transaction in question showed 
> >> up in the
> >> > next statement's reconciliation window.  Again, I went through each
> >> > transaction, noting that they all had checks next to them.  When I got to
> >> > the end, I noticed one deposit of salary that was not checked, and the
> >> > balance was off by that same amount.  So I put a check next to 
> >> that deposit
> >> > (it was the last transaction on that month's statement), and saw the
> >> > balances get to zero (balanced the month).  Everything looked great, so I
> >> > applied the reconciliation.  This time I noticed that the original
> >> > transaction that didn't get reconciled, was now reconciled.  Yay!  
> >> However,
> >> > now this last deposit that I had to manually check in the reconcile window
> >> > does not show as reconciled!  It has a "c" instead of a "y" just like the
> >> > original one I mentioned.  It appears now that I have to wait til next
> >> > month's statement and tack this one onto next months to reconcile it,
> >> > leaving me to wonder if there will be another transaction that 
> >> this happens
> >> > with, leaving me in some weird endless loop.  Does this sound 
> >> familiar?  Do
> >> > you have any way to help me?  Am I making any sense?
> >> > javascript:Nabble.smiley('anim_confused.gif',':confused:')
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >>
> >> I'm afraid it does not sound familiar, but it also doesn't sound all
> >> that surprising..   How can a transaction that happened in the future
> >> get reconciled?  E.g., if you took money out of an ATM on May 23rd,
> >> how could it show up on a statement dated May 22nd?
> >>
> >> To me it sounds like you're entering in the incorrect statement
> >> date, or your marking your transaction dates incorrectly.
> >>
> >> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> >> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> >>
> >> -derek
> >> --
> >>        Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory
> >>        Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board  (SIPB)
> >>        URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/    PP-ASEL-IA     N1NWH
> >>        warlord at MIT.EDU                        PGP key available
> >>
> >
> >
> 
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