How to charge expenses to a customer

Nestor Stura nestor.stura at gmail.com
Sat Oct 8 11:04:26 EDT 2011


John and Andrew,
Thanks a lot for your help.
As John said, I am my first and only employe and therefore never used
employees functionality. I'll give a try this month and probably come back
to you if I find any trouble.

Thanks again,
Nestor

Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:22:36 -0400
> From: "John Layman" <john.layman at laymanandlayman.com>
> To: "'Andrew Sullivan'" <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>,
>        <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: RE: How to charge expenses to a customer
> Message-ID: <001201cc850d$54e7acc0$feb70640$@laymanandlayman.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"
>
> Could you explain more precisely what it is you do?  I have been using
> GnuCash for nearly two years now and know my way around it fairly well, but
> I can't relate your message to features of the software I know about.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gnucash-user-bounces+john.layman=laymanandlayman.com at gnucash.org[mailto:
> gnucash-user-bounces+john.layman=laymanandlayman.com at gnucash.org] On
> Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 11:53 AM
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: How to charge expenses to a customer
>
> On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 04:43:03PM +0200, N?stor Stura wrote:
> > Until now I have no problem posting my expenses in a single account,
> > no matter what project I was involved in, but with this new situation
> > I need to identify those expenses related to this new customer in
> > order to, at month end, list, add and invoice them.
> >
> > Does anyone imagine a way to "mark" those expenses so they can later
> > be filtered?
>
> The way I do this is by submitting an expense report for it.  If you submit
> such an expense report with it tagged to a job _and_ mark the entry
> invoicable, it shows up automatically on the invoice.
>
> A
>
> --
> Andrew Sullivan
> ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:31:23 -0400
> From: Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: How to charge expenses to a customer
> Message-ID: <20111007163123.GH73072 at shinkuro.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 12:22:36PM -0400, John Layman wrote:
> > Could you explain more precisely what it is you do?  I have been using
> GnuCash for nearly two years now and know my way around it fairly well, but
> I can't relate your message to features of the software I know about.
> >
>
> It's an employee expense voucher.  Under Business/Employee pick New
> Expense Voucher.  For each of these, you can select a Customer (and if
> appropriate a Job) as the Default Chargeback Project.  There's an
> Invoiced? column, too.
>
> A
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gnucash-user-bounces+john.layman=laymanandlayman.com at gnucash.org[mailto:
> gnucash-user-bounces+john.layman=laymanandlayman.com at gnucash.org] On
> Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan
> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 11:53 AM
> > To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > Subject: Re: How to charge expenses to a customer
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 04:43:03PM +0200, N?stor Stura wrote:
> > > Until now I have no problem posting my expenses in a single account,
> > > no matter what project I was involved in, but with this new situation
> > > I need to identify those expenses related to this new customer in
> > > order to, at month end, list, add and invoice them.
> > >
> > > Does anyone imagine a way to "mark" those expenses so they can later
> > > be filtered?
> >
> > The way I do this is by submitting an expense report for it.  If you
> submit such an expense report with it tagged to a job _and_ mark the entry
> invoicable, it shows up automatically on the invoice.
> >
> > A
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Sullivan
> > ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > gnucash-user mailing list
> > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> > -----
> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> >
>
> --
> Andrew Sullivan
> ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 11:26:22 -0700
> From: Steve Kelem <steve at kelem.net>
> To: Martin Preuss <martin at aqbanking.de>
> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: aqbanking/gnucash core dump
> Message-ID: <4E8F444E.4040507 at kelem.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Fedora 15 has provided:
> aqbanking-5.0.2-3.fc15.x86_64
> aqbanking-devel-5.0.2-3.fc15.x86_64
>
> Steve
>
> Martin Preuss said the following on 10/06/2011 03:19 PM:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Freitag 07 Oktober 2011, Steve Kelem wrote:
> > [...]
> >> I'm having trouble updating one of my online accounts.
> >> Gnucash crashes, issuing the following message on the console:
> >>
> >> gnucash: provider.c:250: AO_Provider_AddJob: Assertion `u' failed.
> >> Abort (core dumped)
> > [...]
> >
> > I believe this was a bug in older versions of AqBanking.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Martin
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 11:28:05 -0700
> From: Steve Kelem <steve at kelem.net>
> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: aqbanking/gnucash core dump
> Message-ID: <4E8F44B5.9070703 at kelem.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Fedora 15 also provides:
> gwenhywfar-devel-4.0.5-1.fc15.x86_64
> gwenhywfar-4.0.5-1.fc15.x86_64
> gwenhywfar-gui-qt4-4.0.5-1.fc15.x86_64
> gwenhywfar-gui-gtk2-4.0.5-1.fc15.x86_64
>
> If I upgrade to gwenhywfar 4.3.0, will I have problems with the gui?
>
> Steve
>
> Steve Kelem said the following on 10/07/2011 11:26 AM:
> > Fedora 15 has provided:
> > aqbanking-5.0.2-3.fc15.x86_64
> > aqbanking-devel-5.0.2-3.fc15.x86_64
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Martin Preuss said the following on 10/06/2011 03:19 PM:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Freitag 07 Oktober 2011, Steve Kelem wrote:
> >> [...]
> >>> I'm having trouble updating one of my online accounts.
> >>> Gnucash crashes, issuing the following message on the console:
> >>>
> >>> gnucash: provider.c:250: AO_Provider_AddJob: Assertion `u' failed.
> >>> Abort (core dumped)
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> I believe this was a bug in older versions of AqBanking.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Martin
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 14:42:37 -0400
> From: Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com>
> To: Steve Kelem <steve at kelem.net>
> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: aqbanking/gnucash core dump
> Message-ID: <20111007184236.GB21377 at nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Steve Kelem (steve at kelem.net) said:
> > Fedora 15 has provided:
> > aqbanking-5.0.2-3.fc15.x86_64
> > aqbanking-devel-5.0.2-3.fc15.x86_64
>
> Can you get a backtrace?
>
> Bill
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 14:53:00 -0400
> From: "John Layman" <john.layman at laymanandlayman.com>
> To: "'Andrew Sullivan'" <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>,
>        <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: RE: How to charge expenses to a customer
> Message-ID: <001c01cc8522$57b8c190$072a44b0$@laymanandlayman.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"
>
> Thanks.  I haven't used the Employee features, so this isn't familiar
> territory.
>
> I can guess how the voucher entry works and how expense accounts are
> entered, but how is an income account specified for the receivable?  The
> business features just aren't documented.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gnucash-user-bounces+john.layman=laymanandlayman.com at gnucash.org[mailto:
> gnucash-user-bounces+john.layman=laymanandlayman.com at gnucash.org] On
> Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 12:31 PM
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: How to charge expenses to a customer
>
> On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 12:22:36PM -0400, John Layman wrote:
> > Could you explain more precisely what it is you do?  I have been using
> GnuCash for nearly two years now and know my way around it fairly well, but
> I can't relate your message to features of the software I know about.
> >
>
> It's an employee expense voucher.  Under Business/Employee pick New Expense
> Voucher.  For each of these, you can select a Customer (and if appropriate a
> Job) as the Default Chargeback Project.  There's an Invoiced? column, too.
>
> A
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gnucash-user-bounces+john.layman=laymanandlayman.com at gnucash.org
> > [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+john.layman=laymanandlayman.com at gnucash.o
> > rg] On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan
> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 11:53 AM
> > To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > Subject: Re: How to charge expenses to a customer
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 04:43:03PM +0200, N?stor Stura wrote:
> > > Until now I have no problem posting my expenses in a single account,
> > > no matter what project I was involved in, but with this new
> > > situation I need to identify those expenses related to this new
> > > customer in order to, at month end, list, add and invoice them.
> > >
> > > Does anyone imagine a way to "mark" those expenses so they can later
> > > be filtered?
> >
> > The way I do this is by submitting an expense report for it.  If you
> submit such an expense report with it tagged to a job _and_ mark the entry
> invoicable, it shows up automatically on the invoice.
> >
> > A
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Sullivan
> > ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > gnucash-user mailing list
> > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> > -----
> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> >
>
> --
> Andrew Sullivan
> ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
> _______________________________________________
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> -----
> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:25:39 -0700
> From: Steve Kelem <steve at kelem.net>
> To: Martin Preuss <martin at aqbanking.de>, gnucash-user at gnucash.org,
>        notting at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: aqbanking/gnucash core dump
> Message-ID: <4E8F5233.4030002 at kelem.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Nothing prints in the console when I run it from the command line and it
> crashes.
> If I run it from gdb, I get:
> Starting program: /usr/bin/gnucash
> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
> [New Thread 0x7fffeced7700 (LWP 29109)]
> Detaching after fork from child process 29114.
> [New Thread 0x7fffde5ab700 (LWP 29115)]
> Found Finance::Quote version 1.17
> gnucash: provider.c:250: AO_Provider_AddJob: Assertion `u' failed.
>
> Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted.
> 0x0000003db74352d5 in raise () from /lib64/libc.so.6
>
> Also, the windows stay open.  A transitory window is open that was open for
> only a fraction of a second before the crash.  (I saw the flash of a window
> being created and destroyed, but could never read what it said until now.)
>  It's the OnlineBanking Connection Window, which says:
> Progress
>  Current Job  Executing Jobs
> Log Messages:
>  Sending jobs to the bank(s)
>
> and that's it.
> There's no gnucash-debug package available for Fedora 15.
>
> Steve
>
> Bill Nottingham said the following on 10/07/2011 11:42 AM:
> > Steve Kelem (steve at kelem.net) said:
> >> Fedora 15 has provided:
> >> aqbanking-5.0.2-3.fc15.x86_64
> >> aqbanking-devel-5.0.2-3.fc15.x86_64
> > Can you get a backtrace?
> >
> > Bill
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 15:30:29 -0400
> From: Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: How to charge expenses to a customer
> Message-ID: <20111007193029.GP73072 at shinkuro.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 02:53:00PM -0400, John Layman wrote:
>
> > I can guess how the voucher entry works and how expense accounts are
> entered, but how is an income account specified for the receivable?  The
> business features just aren't documented.
>
> Ah.  Well, when you specify a customer for this, the entry appears on
> the next invoice for the customer (though you can remove them from the
> invoice).  Each line needs an income account for it, which you do line
> by line (I think there's a default, but I forget).  It's a little
> clunky, but it works.
>
> I agree that the documentation on the business features is pretty bad.
> I keep thinking I should write some, but since my accountant keeps
> assuring me that I have no clue what I'm doing, I don't think I want
> to write the docs yet :)
>
> A
>
>
> --
> Andrew Sullivan
> ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 08:35:46 -0400
> From: tom grady <tfgzyxw at gmail.com>
> To: gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Stupid user
> Message-ID:
>        <CAE9TdkFUbvKgY97O4Fonb=B2C_+6AaMUXJOTMBnqerRbd+VAGA at mail.gmail.com
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> I AM SO USE TO QUICKEN, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I CANNOT GRASP THE USE OF THIS
> PROGRAM. DOUBLE ENTRY ACCOUNTING STUFF. WHO CARES? ACCOUNTANTS CARE, BUT  I
> DON'T WANT TO BE AN ACCOUNTANT. I'M 71 YEARS OLD. I HAVE AN ACCOUNTANT AND
> HE TAKES MY PRINT OUT OF WHAT AND WHERE I SPENT AND DOES HIS JOB.
>
> I AM ONLY INTERESTED  IN  LISTING PAYEES, CATEGORIES, BALANCES,
> RECONCILING,
>
>  A PROFIT AND LOSS AND A YEAR ENDING PRINTABLE STATEMENT.  "PERIOD"  . WELL
> MAYBE A PIE CHART.
>
> LIKE MICROSOFT, QUICKEN HAS TO KEEP CHANGING THEIR SOFTWARE TO STAY IN
> BUSINESS. UNFORTUNATELY FOR ME THE PRODUCT DOES NOT GET EASIER TO USE, JUST
> MORE SOPHISTICATED BELLS AND WHISTLES AND CONFUSING. " REMEMBER I'M STUPID"
>
>
> YESTERDAY IN GNUC , I ENTERED FROM MY JANUARY'S BANK STATEMENT INTO YOUR
> REGISTER THAT HAD NO WHERE TO PUT A CATEGORY. THEN I SAVED IT. I COULD NOT
> BACK IT UP TO DISC.
>
> THIS MORNING I OPENED GNUCASH AND CANNOT FIND THE JANUARY REGISTER I WAS
> WORKING ON. I CANT FIND THE FILE IN MY DOCUMENTS OR ANYWHERE.
>
> IF YOU LIKE I WILL COME DOWN WHERE EVER YOU ARE AND SIT DOWN AND YOU CAN
> WRITE A PROGRAM, PICKING MY STUPID BRAIN SO THE REST OF THE WORLD CAN
> UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE IT.
>
> I'M NOT A SOFTWARE WRITER BUT HOW DIFFICULT WOULD IT BE TO TAKE SEGMENTS
> FROM THE GNU PROGRAM , CHANGE SOME WORDS TO CREATE A SIMPLE COMPREHENSIVE
> VERSION OF A CHECKING ACCOUNT RECONCILIATION PROGRAM ?
>
> I'LL BET YOU TEN BUCKS THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO DOWN LOAD YOUR PROGRAM
> ARE NON ACCOUNTANTS, JUST LIKE ME AND GIVE UP. BUT YOU DON'T HEAR FROM
> THEM.
>
>
> I'M SURE I'M NOT ALONE WHEN I SAY I WOULD GLADLY PAY FOR AN OPEN SOURCE
> PROGRAM THAT DOES NOT CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR UNLESS THE PROGRAM GETS "
> EASIER" TO USE!!!!!
>
>
> BACK IN 1984, I WROTE A LETTER LIKE THIS TO A NICE YOUNG SOFTWARE WRITER IN
> NEWPORT NEWS VA.  AND HELPED HIM WITH SUGGESTIONS TO REWRITE HIS PAYROLL
> SOFTWARE CALLED  "PC PAYROLL" THAT WORKED FINE AND CHARLIE WAS GREATEFUL
> FOR
> MY HELP. I USED THAT PROGRAM FOR THE 2 BUSINESS I HAD. WORKED GREAT.
>
> SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE TOO CLOSE TO THE TREES TO SEE THE FOREST.
>
> KEEP THEM HONEST. LINUS.  GO GET EM.
>
> THANKS FOR READING THIS
>                                                                   SINCERELY
>                                                                      TOM
> GRADY
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:56:03 +0200
> From: Martin Preuss <martin at aqbanking.de>
> To: Steve Kelem <steve at kelem.net>
> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: aqbanking/gnucash core dump
> Message-ID: <201110072156.03743.martin at aqbanking.de>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi,
>
> On Freitag 07 Oktober 2011, Steve Kelem wrote:
> > Fedora 15 has provided:
> > aqbanking-5.0.2-3.fc15.x86_64
> > aqbanking-devel-5.0.2-3.fc15.x86_64
> [...]
>
> That's too old,  this particular bug had been fixed in one of the later
> releases of AqBanking...
>
>
> Regards
> Martin
>
>
>
> --
> "Things are only impossible until they're not"
>
> Martin Preuss - http://www2.aquamaniac.de/
> AqBanking - http://www.aqbanking.de/
> LibChipcard - http://www.libchipcard.de/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:58:40 -0700
> From: Steve Kelem <steve at kelem.net>
> To: Martin Preuss <martin at aqbanking.de>
> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: aqbanking rebuild
> Message-ID: <4E8F59F0.20202 at kelem.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
>   I downloaded the source for aqbanking-5.0.16, and it complains that I
>   don't have ktoblzcheck (even though I do not use German checks (or
>   German Czechs.-)).
>   (I downloaded ktoblzcheck and tried to compile it, but the configure
>   script is broken and doesn't recognize that gcc 4.6.1 is gcc.)
>   The aqbanking configure script issued only a warning about ktoblzcheck,
>   but it issues an error over gmp:
>   checking for gmp.h... no
>   configure: error: GMP is required, see [1]http://swox.com/gmp
>   That link doesn't work. I get a "Not Found" error.
>   I installed the gmp-devel, and now the configure script is happy.
>   aqbanking compiles, but I get the following error during installation:
>   libtool: install: warning: relinking `libaqbankingpp.la'
>   libtool: install: (cd
>   /usr/local/src/aqbanking-5.0.16/src/libs/aqbankingpp; /bin/sh
>   /usr/local/src/aqbanking-5.0.16/libtool  --tag CXX --mode=relink g++ -g
>   -Wall -g -o libaqbankingpp.la -rpath /usr/lib
>   libaqbankingpp_la-stringlist.lo
>   /usr/local/src/aqbanking-5.0.16/src/libs/aqbanking/libaqbanking.la
>   -lgwenhywfar )
>   mv: cannot stat `libaqbankingpp.so.0.0.0': No such file or directory
>   libtool: install: error: relink `libaqbankingpp.la' with the above
>   command before installing it
>   I tried running the commands in parentheses, and get the error:
>   % cd /usr/local/src/aqbanking-5.0.16/src/libs/aqbankingpp; /bin/sh
>   /usr/local/src/aqbanking-5.0.16/libtool  --tag CXX --mode=relink g++ -g
>   -Wall -g -o libaqbankingpp.la -rpath /usr/lib
>   libaqbankingpp_la-stringlist.lo
>   /usr/local/src/aqbanking-5.0.16/src/libs/aqbanking/libaqbanking.la
>   -lgwenhywfar
>   You are in /usr/local/src/aqbanking-5.0.16/src/libs/aqbankingpp
>   mv: cannot stat `libaqbankingpp.so.0.0.0': No such file or directory
>   % find . -name libaqbankingpp.so\* -print
>   ./.libs/libaqbankingpp.so.0
>   ./.libs/libaqbankingpp.so
>   %
>   Steve
>   Martin Preuss said the following on 10/06/2011 03:19 PM:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Freitag 07 Oktober 2011, Steve Kelem wrote:
> [...]
>
> I'm having trouble updating one of my online accounts.
> Gnucash crashes, issuing the following message on the console:
>
> gnucash: provider.c:250: AO_Provider_AddJob: Assertion `u' failed.
> Abort (core dumped)
>
> [...]
>
> I believe this was a bug in older versions of AqBanking.
>
>
> Regards
> Martin
>
> References
>
>   1. http://swox.com/gmp
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:30:03 -0700
> From: Don Quixote de la Mancha <quixote at dulcineatech.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: [BUG] Split Transactions Should Not Be Assumed
> Message-ID:
>        <CAGL4Zzfi0pLrj0bvz_DFrXkewPkJgjz_3dp2tJvnTxcXpUdXBg at mail.gmail.com
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> A couple weeks ago my Mom lent me some money.  I deposited most of it
> in the bank, keeping some of it as less cash, then recorded it as a
> split transaction with one account being my personal checking and the
> other being cash in wallet.  The memo was "Mom".
>
> A couple days ago my Mom lent me some more money.  I entered Mom in
> the memo field, then GnuCash automatically entered a split
> transaction.  I did not want that, but clicking on the account field
> was unable to remove the split.
>
> I finally figured out how to clear the split, but it was
> counterintuitive.  Splits should only be entered if the user
> explicitly asks for them.
>
> Don Quixote
>
> --
> Don Quixote de la Mancha
> Dulcinea Technologies Corporation
> Software of Elegance and Beauty
> http://www.dulcineatech.com
> quixote at dulcineatech.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:33:03 -0700
> From: Don Quixote de la Mancha <quixote at dulcineatech.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: [Feature Requests] Account Should Not Always Be Assumed For A
>        Given Memo
> Message-ID:
>        <CAGL4ZzebzJswd4FbrzqTU6p_vVBTLTD8je8quF7cwak6XjuBMg at mail.gmail.com
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Most of my transactions that have a given Memo entry always go to the
> same account, so it is fine that GnuCash assumes what the Account
> field is going to be and enters it for me.
>
> But some of my Memo entries require different accounts.  That's the
> case for my bank, for which I have the different kinds of bank service
> charges split into different subaccounts.  It is inconvenient that
> GnuCash often assumes the wrong account and enters it for me.  I have
> to back up and change it.
>
> When considering whether to default the account, GnuCash should check
> whether the given Memo always goes to the same account, or often goes
> to different accounts.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Don Quixote
>
> --
> Don Quixote de la Mancha
> Dulcinea Technologies Corporation
> Software of Elegance and Beauty
> http://www.dulcineatech.com
> quixote at dulcineatech.com
>
>
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>
> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:34:18 -0400
> From: "." <peace at AleksandrSolzhenitsyn.net>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: Stupid user
> Message-ID: <4E8FA89A.7000001 at AleksandrSolzhenitsyn.net>
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> I AM SO USE TO QUICKEN, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I CANNOT GRASP THE USE OF THIS
> PROGRAM. DOUBLE ENTRY ACCOUNTING STUFF. WHO CARES? ACCOUNTANTS CARE,
> BUT  I
> DON'T WANT TO BE AN ACCOUNTANT. I'M 71 YEARS OLD. I HAVE AN ACCOUNTANT AND
> HE TAKES MY PRINT OUT OF WHAT AND WHERE I SPENT AND DOES HIS JOB.
>
> I AM ONLY INTERESTED  IN  LISTING PAYEES, CATEGORIES, BALANCES,
> RECONCILING,
>
>  A PROFIT AND LOSS AND A YEAR ENDING PRINTABLE STATEMENT.  "PERIOD"  .
> WELL
> MAYBE A PIE CHART.
>
> LIKE MICROSOFT, QUICKEN HAS TO KEEP CHANGING THEIR SOFTWARE TO STAY IN
> BUSINESS. UNFORTUNATELY FOR ME THE PRODUCT DOES NOT GET EASIER TO USE,
> JUST
> MORE SOPHISTICATED BELLS AND WHISTLES AND CONFUSING. " REMEMBER I'M
> STUPID"
>
> YESTERDAY IN GNUC , I ENTERED FROM MY JANUARY'S BANK STATEMENT INTO YOUR
> REGISTER THAT HAD NO WHERE TO PUT A CATEGORY. THEN I SAVED IT. I COULD NOT
> BACK IT UP TO DISC.
>
> THIS MORNING I OPENED GNUCASH AND CANNOT FIND THE JANUARY REGISTER I WAS
> WORKING ON. I CANT FIND THE FILE IN MY DOCUMENTS OR ANYWHERE.
>
> IF YOU LIKE I WILL COME DOWN WHERE EVER YOU ARE AND SIT DOWN AND YOU CAN
> WRITE A PROGRAM, PICKING MY STUPID BRAIN SO THE REST OF THE WORLD CAN
> UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE IT.
>
> I'M NOT A SOFTWARE WRITER BUT HOW DIFFICULT WOULD IT BE TO TAKE SEGMENTS
> FROM THE GNU PROGRAM , CHANGE SOME WORDS TO CREATE A SIMPLE COMPREHENSIVE
> VERSION OF A CHECKING ACCOUNT RECONCILIATION PROGRAM ?
>
> I'LL BET YOU TEN BUCKS THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO DOWN LOAD YOUR PROGRAM
> ARE NON ACCOUNTANTS, JUST LIKE ME AND GIVE UP. BUT YOU DON'T HEAR FROM
> THEM.
>
> I'M SURE I'M NOT ALONE WHEN I SAY I WOULD GLADLY PAY FOR AN OPEN SOURCE
> PROGRAM THAT DOES NOT CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR UNLESS THE PROGRAM GETS "
> EASIER" TO USE!!!!!
>
> BACK IN 1984, I WROTE A LETTER LIKE THIS TO A NICE YOUNG SOFTWARE
> WRITER IN
> NEWPORT NEWS VA.  AND HELPED HIM WITH SUGGESTIONS TO REWRITE HIS PAYROLL
> SOFTWARE CALLED  "PC PAYROLL" THAT WORKED FINE AND CHARLIE WAS
> GRATEFUL FOR
> MY HELP. I USED THAT PROGRAM FOR THE 2 BUSINESS I HAD. WORKED GREAT.
>
> SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE TOO CLOSE TO THE TREES TO SEE THE FOREST.
>
> KEEP THEM HONEST. LINUS.  GO GET EM.
>
> THANKS FOR READING THIS
>
> SINCERELY
>                                                                      TOM
> GRADY
>
>
>
> Tom,
>
> You and I are about the same age and I agree with you- make things
> simple and not so complex.
>
> I've been using GC for the past 2 plus years and haven't found it too
> terribly difficult to learn how to use.  Sometimes it was confusing
> but that was because I was "thinking too hard".  GC is A LOT easier to
> use than Quicken.  Quicken is more attractive to the eyes and GC is
> truly a functional program- nothing greatly beautiful in looks about it.
>
> The big difference between Quicken and GC is that GC relies upon
> "accounts" and Quicken relies upon Categories.  As far as I'm
> concerned they're the same things.
>
> For example;
>
> An Account named:               My House
>
>
> Which has several sub accounts called-  repairs
>                                        telephone
>                                        electricity
>                                        propane
>                                        lawn cutting expenses
>                                        Food
>
>
> Since I make most payments with my VISA credit card (which I treat as
> an account named "VISA", when I get my credit card statement I
> download my transactions in a QFX file from VISA (it seems if you
> select a "Web Connect file for Quicken download" you'll get a QFX file
> which GC uses.
>
> I then go to the account in GC named VISA and click FILE-->IMPORT--->
> QFX file and select the file I just downloaded from VISA.  The
> transactions ultimately end up in my VISA account.  From there I can
> add "accounts" to replace any transactions that have the word
> "imbalance" in them.
>
>
> I don't know if that helps you....but.....for me GC is much easier to
> use than Quicken.  I understand your concerns about "double
> entry"...it does seem rather strange but it's helpful.
>
> The reason I stopped using Quicken was they had some "partnership"
> with Bank of America that received a bailout in 2007/2008 which the
> wretched bank should've simply been allowed to fail.  Also, as you
> mentioned, they keep changing the software- I was sick and tired of
> having to pay for a new program every few years just so I could
> download transactions into my accounts.  So, I tried GC using Windows
> but everyone suggested using a Linux OS....so I did and am very glad I
> did.
>
> Are you running a Linux based system?
>
> There's also a philosophical portion of this that not too many people
> address;  GC is Open Source.  The program "code" can be re-viewed by
> anyone that has an interest to do so.  The experts that study that
> sort of thing can determine, amongst other things, whether the code is
> malicious...if it's sending your account information to a 3rd party
> (for example) without your permission or "data mining" your
> transactions and sending them to some marketing firm.
>
> Quicken is proprietary close source.  Exactly what they do with the
> data that's in your QDF file (I think that's the extension) or
> information you give them when you buy the program is not too well
> known much less understood.  I simply don't trust any program that's
> not Open Source and don't care one bit about "proprietary" or copy
> right protected software- it's just too risky to use.
>
> As GnuCash is Open Source we derive great benefit from those that are
> working on the program world wide 24 hours a day.  Both working to
> improve it and help numbskulls like myself in using it.  And it's all
> free!  Free tech help and a free program!
>
> As I said before, GnuCash is a lot easier to use than Quicken once you
> figure out a few simple steps.  Give it try and work with it in
> parallel to Quicken.  People on here will help you with any GC problem
> you might have.  They're pretty darn patient and certainly not
> belligerent
>
> Best wishes, etc,
>
> Alek
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 22:17:06 -0400
> From: "." <peace at aleksandrsolzhenitsyn.net>
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