Tracking a TIAA mixed fund account

[AC]

Seems like it might but what I want is to have the top level account
(let's just call it TIAA) follow the entire value of the portfolio.
Underneath that I want to see what the three individual funds are doing
(the two lifecycles and the mutual).  In the case of the lifecycle,
you're correct that it sort of looks like a mutual fund except that I
don't know what's actually inside it unlike a traditional MF where I
know the individual distribution of shares that make up the overall MF.

In this case then there would be three under TIAA, TIAA LC 1, TIAA LC2
and TIAA MF and I would want to see the individual values (in dollars)
of those three including the contributions to each, whatever dividends
they earn and then, in the case of TIAA MF, I'd want to have the
underlying distributions recorded just like a normal MF account.

I suppose the sticky point is having the value tracking of the whole
portfolio in addition to the individual fund values and then the MF
distributions.  Trying to get the cascade to work right.

On 2017-07-22 21:17, David T. wrote:
> I may be misunderstanding,  but it seems like the following would work:
> 
> Assets:TIAA (cash)
> Assets:TIAA:Lifecycle 1 (commodity)
> Assets:TIAA:Lifecycle 2 (commodity)
> Assets:TIAA:TIAA Mutual Fund (commodity)
> 
> My experience of the so called "Lifecycle" funds is that they are just like any 
> other mutual funds.
> 
> When I handle payroll deductions, the dollars go into the cash account, and a 
> separate purchase transaction moves the cash into fund shares. It's a little 
> cumbersome, but it allows me to ensure that the right numbers get in.
> 
> HTH,
> David
> 
>     On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 8:38, AC
>     <gnucash at acarver.net> wrote:
>     I want to start tracking my TIAA retirement portfolio for informational
>     purposes (no reporting needs, filings, etc.) but I need some suggestions
>     on structuring the account trees so that it doesn't affect my existing
>     accounts.  However, possibly later I'll edit things so that the paycheck
>     contributions are directed accordingly so I'd want the new accounts to
>     allow that eventually (i.e. for now I'll add contributions manually
>     using a virtual source and eventually go back through and move those to
>     withdraw from my paycheck, the amount withheld is already accounted)
> 
>     The trick with my TIAA portfolio is that it has three different products
>     within it.  Two of them are TIAA funds (one of the lifecycle multi-asset
>     funds) that does not have a breakdown of the individual holdings (like a
>     mutual fund).  These two only document the employer contributions, my
>     contributions, shares and interest/dividends.  The third product is a
>     TIAA mutual fund for which the individual holdings are broken out with
>     all the same data as a typical mutual fund (shares, prices, etc.)
> 
>     What I expect to have is some type of top-level account that tracks the
>     overall value of the portfolio in dollars and then either within that or
>     somewhere nearby an account or account tree for each of the three
>     products.  At first I had considered just making the two TIAA funds into
>     an account that was basically a mutual fund with a single holding but I
>     wasn't quite sure how to combine that with the one real mutual fund when
>     each of the three funds receives different amounts of contributions and
>     individual dividends.  Perhaps it would be a top-level account then
>     three sub-accounts that are all mutual funds with two of them having one
>     holding and the last is the broken out holding?
> 
>     I don't plan on using this for any official reporting (I get those
>     documents already), and I don't plan on downloading statements, quotes,
>     or anything else.  I'll just manually track things as my statements come
>     in and I enter the data from those, perhaps updating symbol share prices
>     manually if I'm interested at a particular time.  I don't currently use
>     much reporting as is with my existing accounts except an occasional cash
>     flow report so as long as that isn't affected I'm fine.  I do currently
>     have a mutual fund being tracked so I want to be careful not to cause
>     trouble for that either.
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