[GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 182, Issue 66

varda241 varda241 at aol.com
Wed May 30 23:36:08 EDT 2018


    
Thank you. It is not that critical, just a nice to have.


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback (D)
   2. Re:  Import transactions (ddemott at juno.com)
   3. Re:  Import transactions (Geert Janssens)
   4. Re:  latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback (Adrien Monteleone)
   5.  Associated Files in 3.1 (Christian Kluge)
   6.  copying files (Varda Rotenberg)
   7. Re:  copying files (Colin Law)
   8. Re:  copying files (Adrien Monteleone)
   9. Re:  Printing a report splits line of text with page break
      (John Dablin)
  10. Re:  A/P: invoice not displayed and payment is displayed
      (Rick Copple)
  11. Re:  A/P: invoice not displayed and payment is displayed
      (Rich Shepard)
  12. Re:  Can't install 3.1-1 on my Mac (John Ralls)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 21:01:23 +0500
From: D <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
To: "quilarc at chariot.net.au" <quilarc at chariot.net.au>, Gnucash Users
	<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback
Message-ID: <62vefrixqbelqhphscwdmybn.1527696083061 at email.android.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Long ago, I changed to having the tabs go down the left side of the window. That's kept me happy on the tab front for a good while!

David

On May 30, 2018, at 1:43 PM, Bruce Lang <quilarc at chariot.net.au> wrote:

I love the new look - so much better and cleaner.

I have 8 tabs open at any one time and can see 6 without scrolling - 
that's the same as the number of tabs in my web browser - so what's the 
problem?

If the tabs are too big - how about abbreviating the name (e.g. by 
changing "Profit & Loss" to "P&L" significantly reduces the width of the 
tab).

Thanks,

*Bruce*



On 30/05/2018 5:13 PM, prl wrote:
> On 30/05/2018 15:12, Alun Champion wrote:
>> MacOS High Sierra, Gnucash 3.1-3.
>>
>> If anyone finds a way for reducing the padding around the tabs (left), I
>> would be very interested. 3.1 uses almost twice as much space as 
>> 2.6.X. I
>> keep a number of tabs open (reports, accounts, registers, etc.) and this
>> comfortably fits on the screen now in 3.1 this forces scrolling.
> I'd be interested in the ability the space that tabs take, too, for 
> the same reason.
>
> Also, in 2.6.x, the mouse scroll wheel used to allow quick scrolling 
> of the tabs if the mouse was pointing in the tab area, and that 
> ability has disappeared in 3.1.
>
> Closing down 3.1 is also rather clunky. In 2.6, quitting Gnucash would 
> just close the window and exit. In 3.1 it messes about closing each 
> individual tab before closing the window. What's the reason for that, 
> and can it be avoided easily?
>
> Peter
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 16:33:17 GMT
From: "ddemott at juno.com" <ddemott at juno.com>
To: geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be
Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Import transactions
Message-ID: <20180530.113317.13793.0 at webmail01.vgs.untd.com>
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Geert, Thanks for the quick response and steering me to the Android support channel. As for the export/import, I think my expectations were probably misguided. I had hoped the csv import would be the equivalent of a qif import but I now see they are totally different. I must explicitly identify column associations and manually specify the posting of each row. I can see that provides great flexibility for some needs but for what I'm trying to do probably not useable. You are correct that I can share gnucash files between apps but it's only transactions "on the go" that I'm trying to capture with Android. The app claims that to be its intended purpose, it just crashes when I try it. I haven't gotten far enough to know how well GnuCash imports qif but presume it works okay. Thanks for your guidance. You've certainly gotten me further down the road of understanding. Dale DeMott

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Geert Janssens <geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be>
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Cc: "ddemott at juno.com" <ddemott at juno.com>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Import transactions
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 17:01:38 +0200

Hi,

Gnucash for Android is a separate project with its own support channels. I 
can't say much of it as I don't use it. The support channel for gnucash for 
android can be found here:
https://github.com/codinguser/gnucash-android/issues

>From what I heard I thought you could simply share your data file between 
Gnucash for Android and Gnucash without having to import/export. I may be 
totally wrong though...

As for export/import in gnucash, I quickly checked and I agree the way to 
select subaccounts is pretty flakey. That should be improved.

What problems did you experience when trying to import a csv file generated 
with gnucash itself ?
A few possible issues that have been reported already are:
- Fails to import if csv data has single \\ characters (Fixed for 3.2)
- Price information is not imported correctly (and probably not exported 
either)

Geert



Op woensdag 30 mei 2018 16:35:08 CEST schreef ddemott at juno.com:
> I'm new to GnuCash and trying to learn and use some of its features. I
> downloaded version 3.1 and experiencing some very unexpected behavior. In
> particular, I'm trying (unsuccessfully) to export transactions from GnuCash
> for Android and import them into GnuCash. Here's what I experience: GnuCash
> for AndroidSolicits filename before selecting the export type (qif, xml).
> Regardless what I specify, ".zip" appends to the filename. Selecting 'qif'
> crashes the app.
> Selecting 'xml' works but I discovered that the resultant file is not
> actually "zipped". Exporting to 'xml' does not allow the same date
> selection and delete after exporting options as offered for 'qif' exports.
> GnuCashRenaming the 'xml' file exported from Android to '.gnucash' will
> open with my transactions. Unfortunately, I can neither import transactions
> from a 'gnucash' file nor can I export transactions to a 'qif' file. I can
> export to 'csv' but I must manually expand every account branch before I
> can successfully include all sub-accounts for export. GnuCash will not
> import transactions from the same 'csv' file it exported. I'm trying to
> create proper expectations. Can someone please tell me whether these
> characteristics are imagined or real, bugs or features? Dale DeMott
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 19:28:35 +0200
From: Geert Janssens <geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be>
To: "ddemott at juno.com" <ddemott at juno.com>
Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Import transactions
Message-ID: <3776621.lvPLgZOlvs at legolas.kobaltwit.lan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Op woensdag 30 mei 2018 18:33:17 CEST schreef ddemott at juno.com:
> Geert, Thanks for the quick response and steering me to the Android support
> channel. As for the export/import, I think my expectations were probably
> misguided. I had hoped the csv import would be the equivalent of a qif
> import but I now see they are totally different. I must explicitly identify
> column associations and manually specify the posting of each row. I can see
> that provides great flexibility for some needs but for what I'm trying to
> do probably not useable. You are correct that I can share gnucash files
> between apps but it's only transactions "on the go" that I'm trying to
> capture with Android. The app claims that to be its intended purpose, it
> just crashes when I try it. I haven't gotten far enough to know how well
> GnuCash imports qif but presume it works okay. Thanks for your guidance.
> You've certainly gotten me further down the road of understanding. Dale
> DeMott

You're welcome. The csv importer is indeed very generic. However it also 
allows you to create profiles (or "Presets") to save commonly used formats. 
Gnucash ships with one preset by default, namely one to interpret a csv file 
as if exported by gnucash (using all default export settings).

Regards,

Geert




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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 14:02:33 -0500
From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
To: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] latest gnucash release (3.1) feedback
Message-ID: <257CBB0F-1725-4E7C-9B56-42D6264E0BF1 at lusfiber.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

I believe the tab scrolling issue is something related to Gtk+3, not GnuCash. I know it?s been talked about somewhat, but I don?t recall if there is a bug filed on it or not. (this would be a Gtk bug, NOT a GnuCash bug. Gnome just moved their bug tracker to Github so you?ll need a separate account there to file one.)

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 30, 2018, at 2:43 AM, prl <prl at ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> 
> On 30/05/2018 15:12, Alun Champion wrote:
>> MacOS High Sierra, Gnucash 3.1-3.
>> 
>> If anyone finds a way for reducing the padding around the tabs (left), I
>> would be very interested. 3.1 uses almost twice as much space as 2.6.X. I
>> keep a number of tabs open (reports, accounts, registers, etc.) and this
>> comfortably fits on the screen now in 3.1 this forces scrolling.
> I'd be interested in the ability the space that tabs take, too, for the same reason.
> 
> Also, in 2.6.x, the mouse scroll wheel used to allow quick scrolling of the tabs if the mouse was pointing in the tab area, and that ability has disappeared in 3.1.
> 
> Closing down 3.1 is also rather clunky. In 2.6, quitting Gnucash would just close the window and exit. In 3.1 it messes about closing each individual tab before closing the window. What's the reason for that, and can it be avoided easily?
> 
> Peter
> 
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 21:04:12 +0200
From: Christian Kluge <frakturfreak at gmail.com>
To: gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Associated Files in 3.1
Message-ID: <pemsf9$n9u$1 at blaine.gmane.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi,

I?m running a self-compiled version 3.1 on Linux.

I use sqlite as database format.

If I associate a file to a transaction everything seems fine as long I
have gnucash running.

If I reopen gnucash all file associations seem to be gone.

However with a sqlite database program I can still see the URLs of the
associated files.

I?ve already played with the setting for a relative path.

What could be the solution to this problem?

Thanks in advance!

Christian Kluge



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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 16:02:33 -0400
From: Varda Rotenberg <varda241 at aol.com>
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] copying files
Message-ID: <163b2a5145e-c8d-8a02 at webjas-vac029.srv.aolmail.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


Hi:
I can copy the gnucash data from my desk top and back with no problem. However, when I place the flush card in my laptop it reads as "read only" I did edit the account and took the place holder check off as instructed and it did not help . Both computer and laptop or ubuntu 18.04 mate, and have the same user name and password. I was hoping to be able to travel with the laptop and keep gnucash current. Any suggestion?



Varda Rotenberg
varda241 at aol.com




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 21:09:58 +0100
From: Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com>
To: Varda Rotenberg <varda241 at aol.com>
Cc: gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] copying files
Message-ID:
	<CAL=0gLvcF4qW35EkrugtCvC+6dgt=xwz_WFLy4dANOjHrAiWRw at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On 30 May 2018 at 21:02, Varda Rotenberg via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:

>
> Hi:
> I can copy the gnucash data from my desk top and back with no problem.
> However, when I place the flush card in my laptop it reads as "read only" I
> did edit the account and took the place holder check off as instructed and
> it did not help . Both computer and laptop or ubuntu 18.04 mate, and have
> the same user name and password. I was hoping to be able to travel with the
> laptop and keep gnucash current. Any suggestion?
>

Is it read only in the file manager or just in GC?

Colin


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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 15:19:39 -0500
From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
To: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] copying files
Message-ID: <D8274AAA-8D77-4A43-BF07-C8E2ADDC58E5 at lusfiber.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

I thought Ubuntu fixed that problem. There was a long standing bug concerning USB devices mounting as read-only. (a flash card is mounted under the USB subsystem) It may still be hanging around on some systems, especially if you upgraded from 16.04 or earlier without a fresh install.

You can probably find plenty of help threads on the web about it. I?m sorry I don?t recall off hand a quick solution short of logging out and back in. (no need to shutdown entirely as I recall) Also, this was a Unity problem that was due to some hold-over code from the old Gnome desktop. (Gtk+2) Since MATE forked that code, it is possible the bug wasn?t fixed there. (yet)

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 30, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Varda Rotenberg via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi:
> I can copy the gnucash data from my desk top and back with no problem. However, when I place the flush card in my laptop it reads as "read only" I did edit the account and took the place holder check off as instructed and it did not help . Both computer and laptop or ubuntu 18.04 mate, and have the same user name and password. I was hoping to be able to travel with the laptop and keep gnucash current. Any suggestion?
> 
> 
> 
> Varda Rotenberg
> varda241 at aol.com
> 
> 
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 22:59:11 +0100
From: John Dablin <jdablin at ntlworld.com>
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Printing a report splits line of text with page
	break
Message-ID: <55d4227d-8fee-41a3-2b18-34330498eac2 at ntlworld.com>
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On 30/05/18 08:20, Geert Janssens wrote:
> Op dinsdag 29 mei 2018 19:16:48 CEST schreef John Ralls:
>>> On May 29, 2018, at 10:06 AM, John Dablin via gnucash-user
>>> <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:>
>>> On 29/05/18 17:28, Maf. King wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:12:37 BST John Dablin via gnucash-user wrote:
>>>>> I've created a custom transaction report and I want to print it, but
>>>>> when I do the bottom line of text on pages after the first is split in
>>>>> two, with the bottom half of the characters appearing at the top of the
>>>>> next page. Exactly the same thing happens when I export the report as a
>>>>> PDF. I've taken a screenshot of part of the PDF to show what I mean, see
>>>>> http://www.pennydablin.com/images/screenshot.png
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm in the UK printing to A4 paper. A4 is specified in page setup, and
>>>>> it doesn't seem to make any difference whether I specify "format for any
>>>>> printer" or for my specific printer. I've looked for any options to set
>>>>> margins etc, but I haven't found any.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm running Gnucash 2.6.17 on Kubuntu 17.10. However I've had this
>>>>> problem with several different versions over the years and ignored it,
>>>>> but now I need to give the report to somebody else so I would like to be
>>>>> able to fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in anticipation for any help.
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> I always export the report to HTML, then use firefox to print it.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Maf.
>>> I'd forgotten you can do that. It took some finding because export as HTML
>>> doesn't seem to be in the menu, and the toolbar icon looks like 'reload'
>>> rather than 'export'. However it has solved my immediate problem, thank
>>> you very much.
>>>
>>> It's a bit of a clunky work around, though. I'm not sure how to raise a
>>> bug report, but it seems to have been a problem for a long time so I'd be
>>> surprised if nobody's reported it already.
>> Unfortunately it's a behavior of GtkWebKitWebView, which is what GnuCash
>> uses for rendering, displaying, and printing reports. There's no
>> immediately practical alternative for us to switch to, so there's not much
>> we can do about it.
>>
> I will add this is only a problem still on Windows and OS X. On linux we have
> been able to upgrade to a more recent version of GtkWebKitWebView which no
> longer has this issue. Our attempts to upgrade to that same version on Windows
> and OS X have failed so we chose to stick with the older versions there and
> live with this particular bug.
>
> Geert
>
>
>
I hope to upgrade to Kubuntu 18.04 soon, so maybe I'll get the new 
versions then. In the meantime Maf. King's work around has solved the 
problem for me.

Thanks.
John Dablin


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 17:09:19 -0500
From: Rick Copple <rick at copplecleaningservice.com>
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] A/P: invoice not displayed and payment is displayed
Message-ID:
	<70108df9-547b-88f5-f754-30a1a78942f8 at copplecleaningservice.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 05/30/2018 07:45 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Wed, 30 May 2018, Maf. King wrote:
>
>> Yes, tedious unpost-repos


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