[GNC] Top-Level Account:Expenses not totaling in Budget
Lorrie Laskey
lrlaskey at gmail.com
Mon Jul 6 21:34:01 EDT 2020
Adrian,
Thank you very much. Without your help, I would have never found the
auto-fill feature. And now the Expenses are showing a cumulative total.
Both were big issues. I was ready to find another program.
Some child-level accounts are still showing zero values because their
sub-accounts have no values. For example, Medical has no entries for
doctor's visits, meds, and tests, but I can live with seeing zero.
Now I can move on to finishing my budget. You are a life saver. Thanks.
Lorrie
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> 1. Re: OFX setup (John Ralls)
> 2. Re: OFX setup (Fleur Dragan)
> 3. Re: Gnucash-User (Stan Brown)
> 4. Re: Top-Level Account:Expenses not totaling in Budget
> (Adrien Monteleone)
> 5. Re: Top-Level Account:Expenses not totaling in Budget
> (Adrien Monteleone)
> 6. Re: Help required (Adrien Monteleone)
> 7. Re: Gnucash-User (Don Ireland)
> 8. Re: Gnucash-User (David T.)
> 9. Re: Gnucash-User (Adrien Monteleone)
> 10. Re: Gnucash-User (David Cousens)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> To: Fleur Dragan <fleur at obscure.org>
> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 09:09:42 -0700
> Subject: Re: [GNC] OFX setup
> Unfortunately the stderr/stdout capture didn't make it through the list.
> You may send them directly to me if you like, but please first go through
> them and remove any identifying information, especially the bank routing
> id, account numbers, and any PINs or passwords.
>
> All that you need for an OFX account setup is the Routing ID and Account
> number. The former goes in the Bank Code field, the latter in the Account
> Number field. Both should have been in the log window output; you can edit
> the user and retrieve accounts again if you need to. The Bank and Account
> names are used to identify the account in the UI so you can enter whatever
> you like. The other fields are for HBCI/FinTS and can safely be left blank.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Fleur Dragan <fleur at obscure.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > First I set:
> >
> > export GWEN_LOGLEVEL=debug
> > export AQBANKING_LOGLEVEL=debug
> > export AQOFX_LOG_COMM=1
> > export AQOFXCONNECT_LOGLEVEL=debug
> >
> >
> > Then I ran, just to be safe:
> >
> > rm -rf ~/.aqbanking/
> >
> >
> > Then I ran:
> >
> > /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash --debug 2>&1 | tee
> gnc.out
> >
> >
> > Once GnuCash started up, I tried to set up a user, which was
> successful. Then I tried to retrieve accounts, which was also successful,
> but no accounts were created in the aqbanking window. I tried to create an
> account, but it's not clear what information each field wants, especially
> since it's designed to be country agnostic. Is BIC SWIFT the routing
> number for my US account? Is country "US" or "United States" or something
> else? Bank Name? The one in www.ofxhome.com? The one on their
> website? Can't get much more ambiguous than bank name. The look up bank
> code doesn't appear to do anything, so I have no idea if the bank code is
> the OFX FI, the routing number, or something else. There are enough
> ambiguous fields, trying various combinations is prohibitive. If there is
> documentation, in English (google translate will not understand subtleties
> of BIC/IBAN/SWIFT/routing number), for setting up OFX accounts, I will
> happily try again.
> >
> > There were no errors in /tmp/ofx.log.
> >
> > There don't seem to be any errors in the output, and nothing was in the
> trace file, so I guess I read how to turn that on wrong. I've attached the
> stdout/stderr output. Will the trace be helpful? If so, I'll go back and
> to that. What else have I missed?
> >
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> > fleur
> > --
> > Fleur Dragan / fleur at obscure.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 5, 2020, at 1:14 AM, Frank H. Ellenberger <
> frank.h.ellenberger at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Am 05.07.20 um 00:51 schrieb peterb:
> >>> Fleur Dragan said:
> >>>
> >>>> So when I try to set up OFX connectivity, the user is created
> >>>> successfully. Then I try to retrieve accounts, which do show up in
> the log
> >>>> window, and the log window says I may now close, but when I do,
> nothing
> >>>> happens. This was the same behavior I saw with aqbanking 6.1.4.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> This was the exact same behavior I saw in 3.10. I haven't tried it
> with
> >>> 4.0 yet. The overall user impression was "Your login has succeeded!
> >>> Nothing happens."
> >>>
> >>> -P
> >>
> >> just in case the one or other wants to dig deeper:
> >> * https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/AqBanking#Debugging
> >> * https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile
> >> Flatpak users only:
> >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak#Getting_Console_Output
> >>
> >> HTH
> >> Frank
> >>
> >
> >
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Fleur Dragan <fleur at obscure.org>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 17:41:00 +0100
> Subject: Re: [GNC] OFX setup
>
> It didn't even occur to me I couldn't send an attachment to the list. I
> facepalm. I'll go through it again with debugging and send you the output
> directly tomorrow. Thanks.
>
> And of course, before I wrote this, I was so excited I forgot to set up
> debugging and I went and tried setting up an account with just the routing
> and account numbers. When I clicked ok, it threw up an error dialog saying
> "unable to update account spec." When I clicked dismiss, the account was
> actually there.
>
> I was able to advance to the window to associate the account with a
> GnuCash account, and did so. Then I went to the register, selected Actions
> > Online Actions > Get Transactions..., chose to download from yesterday,
> and got this:
>
> AqBanking v6.2.1.0stable
> Sending jobs to the bank(s)
> Sorting commands by account
> Sorting commands by account
> Sorting commands by provider
> Send commands to providers
> Send commands to provider "aqofxconnect"
> Error Sending commands to provider "aqofxconnect":-104
>
> So...progress?
>
> (Also, the "Select Backend" window just sticks around no matter what I do,
> until quit.)
>
>
> fleur
> --
> Fleur Dragan / fleur at obscure.org
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 2020, at 5:09 PM, John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately the stderr/stdout capture didn't make it through the list.
> You may send them directly to me if you like, but please first go through
> them and remove any identifying information, especially the bank routing
> id, account numbers, and any PINs or passwords.
> >
> > All that you need for an OFX account setup is the Routing ID and Account
> number. The former goes in the Bank Code field, the latter in the Account
> Number field. Both should have been in the log window output; you can edit
> the user and retrieve accounts again if you need to. The Bank and Account
> names are used to identify the account in the UI so you can enter whatever
> you like. The other fields are for HBCI/FinTS and can safely be left blank.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 6, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Fleur Dragan <fleur at obscure.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> First I set:
> >>
> >> export GWEN_LOGLEVEL=debug
> >> export AQBANKING_LOGLEVEL=debug
> >> export AQOFX_LOG_COMM=1
> >> export AQOFXCONNECT_LOGLEVEL=debug
> >>
> >>
> >> Then I ran, just to be safe:
> >>
> >> rm -rf ~/.aqbanking/
> >>
> >>
> >> Then I ran:
> >>
> >> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash --debug 2>&1 | tee
> gnc.out
> >>
> >>
> >> Once GnuCash started up, I tried to set up a user, which was
> successful. Then I tried to retrieve accounts, which was also successful,
> but no accounts were created in the aqbanking window. I tried to create an
> account, but it's not clear what information each field wants, especially
> since it's designed to be country agnostic. Is BIC SWIFT the routing
> number for my US account? Is country "US" or "United States" or something
> else? Bank Name? The one in www.ofxhome.com? The one on their
> website? Can't get much more ambiguous than bank name. The look up bank
> code doesn't appear to do anything, so I have no idea if the bank code is
> the OFX FI, the routing number, or something else. There are enough
> ambiguous fields, trying various combinations is prohibitive. If there is
> documentation, in English (google translate will not understand subtleties
> of BIC/IBAN/SWIFT/routing number), for setting up OFX accounts, I will
> happily try again.
> >>
> >> There were no errors in /tmp/ofx.log.
> >>
> >> There don't seem to be any errors in the output, and nothing was in the
> trace file, so I guess I read how to turn that on wrong. I've attached the
> stdout/stderr output. Will the trace be helpful? If so, I'll go back and
> to that. What else have I missed?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> fleur
> >> --
> >> Fleur Dragan / fleur at obscure.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jul 5, 2020, at 1:14 AM, Frank H. Ellenberger <
> frank.h.ellenberger at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Am 05.07.20 um 00:51 schrieb peterb:
> >>>> Fleur Dragan said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> So when I try to set up OFX connectivity, the user is created
> >>>>> successfully. Then I try to retrieve accounts, which do show up in
> the log
> >>>>> window, and the log window says I may now close, but when I do,
> nothing
> >>>>> happens. This was the same behavior I saw with aqbanking 6.1.4.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This was the exact same behavior I saw in 3.10. I haven't tried it
> with
> >>>> 4.0 yet. The overall user impression was "Your login has succeeded!
> >>>> Nothing happens."
> >>>>
> >>>> -P
> >>>
> >>> just in case the one or other wants to dig deeper:
> >>> * https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/AqBanking#Debugging
> >>> * https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile
> >>> Flatpak users only:
> >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak#Getting_Console_Output
> >>>
> >>> HTH
> >>> Frank
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Stan Brown <the_stan_brown at fastmail.fm>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 09:50:04 -0700
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash-User
>
>
> On 2020-07-06 08:34, John Ralls wrote:
> >
> >> On Jul 6, 2020, at 3:22 AM, Liz <edodd at billiau.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 21:24:25 -0700
> >> Stan Brown <the_stan_brown at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I guess all that would recommend abandoning nabble altogether, and
> >>>> drinking the gnucash Kool ade directly from lists.gnucash.org...
> >>>> just saying.?.
>
> I did not write that. I believe it was written by "D." but I could be
> mistaken.
>
> >> I don't know how we could, because no-one knows who actually signed
> >> Gnucash lists up to Nabble in the first place.
> >
> > Maybe a few DMCA takedown notices? After all, they're violating our
> copyright by republishing our works on this list without permission or
> recompense, and doing so for commercial purposes (they run ads on the
> website).
>
> > P.S. Lessee, to make things more interesting:
> > Copyright 2020 John Ralls, Fremont California. All rights reserved.
> > Publication permission granted solely to lists.gnucash.org.
>
> I think that ship sailed with Usenet. When Google took over Dejanews,
> some of us put similar notices in our articles. Google ignored them,
> used our articles in search results anyway.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com
> https://OakRoadSystems.com
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
> To: gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 11:51:14 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Top-Level Account:Expenses not totaling in Budget
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 2020 w28d188, at 8:36 AM, Lorrie Laskey <lrlaskey at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 1. How do I get a total monthly expense value for all expenses?
>
> That should be in the summary at the bottom as well as in the parent
> account ‘Expenses’ line in the budget itself.
>
> *note — do not enter a value into a parent account cell that you want to
> be a ‘roll-up’ sum of its children. Leave it blank and the budget sheet
> will auto-tally the children and display that as the amount of the parent
> budget. Otherwise, you get a fixed amount for the parent that you entered.
> You can’t even have a ‘zero’ there. It must be empty of your own entry. (it
> may show a gray ‘0.00’ in that case)
>
> > 2. Is there not a feature to autofill or drag the monthly values, say
> > $60 for phone, into all months? Otherwise copy and paste are so
> error-prone
> > and time-consuming.
>
> Yes, use the ‘All Periods’ button on the toolbar. You can replace an
> amount, add to an existing figure, or multiply an existing figure by your
> entry and even choose to round to a significant figure.
>
> > 3. How are 1-time payments for a time period handled? Examples are
> > insurance paid once per six months.
>
> That is up to you. Some people budget the one time payment. Some spread it
> out evenly. For example, I budget the payment of insurance to a pre-paid
> asset account, then expense it over time.
>
> > 4. Can the Column of the budget not be adjusted by inputting a width
> > value like a column in a spreadsheet? Grabbing and pulling the column
> is
> > not exact and the width changes with the browser window width requiring
> > constant fiddling.
>
> Sadly, no. I don’t think any part of GnuCash works that way at this time.
> The only column I can adjust at all in the Budget is the Account Name. Not
> sure how you are managing to adjust the others. I thought they would
> auto-fit the number of digits.
>
>
> > 5. How do I remove specific expenses from the list of expenses under
> the
> > Expenses top-level account? I don't want to see expenses listed where I
> > will have a zero value.
>
> View > Filter By... > Other > uncheck `Show zero total accounts`
>
> Note, the option to not show ‘unused accounts’ will hide any accounts for
> which you do not have transactions.
>
> There is no way to toggle individual accounts otherwise, but when running
> the Budget Report, you get another opportunity to exclude them in Options >
> Accounts as a per-account setting.
>
> ----
>
>
> Finally, be sure to use the latest GnuCash (4.0), the budget module has
> received several updates over the last year and older versions might not
> work the same or even have some features missing. (like the 'All Periods’
> button, not sure when that was implemented)
>
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
> To: gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 11:53:20 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Top-Level Account:Expenses not totaling in Budget
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 2020 w28d188, at 8:36 AM, Lorrie Laskey <lrlaskey at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I tried estimating the expenses and that ignored the rent, entirely, the
> > largest of my expenses.
>
> Please do file a bug report on this. Extensive work has been done on the
> budget recently and the developer working on it is in need of testing and
> feedback.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
> To: gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 12:00:20 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Help required
> I will add steps 4b & 7b:
>
> After opening your file with the new version you just installed (3.x, and
> later again with 4.x) with focus on the Accounts tab click:
>
> Actions > Check & Repair > Check & Repair All
>
> This will attempt to fix any issues that the data file might have already
> had, or that were created if something went wrong with the file conversion.
>
> This is recommended in the Wiki as part of the upgrade procedure.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Jul 6, 2020 w28d188, at 6:13 AM, Stan Brown <
> the_stan_brown at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 2020-07-05 23:55, Verghese Kuruvilla wrote:
> >> I am using GnuCash software ver 2.6.13 on my computer having Microsoft
> >> Windows 10. Is there a latest update for this version and if so how do I
> >> download the update?
> >
> > There is, and it was announced on this list earlier this week. I guess
> > you must be new to the list. Welcome!
> >
> > Stable releases can be downloaded from
> > https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnucash/files/gnucash%20%28stable%29/
> >
> > However, as I was advised a couple of weeks ago, you cannot upgrade
> > directly from release 2.x to release 4.x. Major versions (2.x, 3.x, 4.x)
> > can read data files one step back, but not two steps back.
> > To be more explicit: release 3.x can read 2.x data files and convert
> > them to 3.x format. 4.x can read 3.x data files (not 2.x data files) and
> > concert them to 4.x format.
> >
> > In order:
> > 1. Make a backup of your data file, using normal Windows 10 file copy.
> > 2. Install 3.11.
> > 3. Run GC, open your 2.x data file. GC will convert it to 3.x format,
> > but you must save it.
> > 4. Check in File Explorer to make sure that the data file has been
> > updated (based on time last modified), then make a backup using Windows
> > copy.
> > 5. Install 4.0.
> > 6. Run GC, open your 3.x data file. GC will convert it to 4.x format,
> > but you must save it.
> > 7. Check in File Explorer to make sure that the data file has been
> > updated (based on time last modified), then make a backup using Windows
> > copy.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Don Ireland <gnuCash at donireland.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org, Liz <edodd at billiau.net>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 12:35:35 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash-User
> Out of curiosity, i visited their forum. When you look at the "people"
> tab, there is an option to show only the administrators. That lists ONE
> USER named Hugo.
>
> On July 6, 2020 5:22:15 AM CDT, Liz <edodd at billiau.net> wrote:
> >On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 21:24:25 -0700
> >Stan Brown <the_stan_brown at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >
> >> > I guess all that would recommend abandoning nabble altogether, and
> >> > drinking the gnucash Kool ade directly from lists.gnucash.org...
> >> > just saying.?.
> >> >
> >I don't know how we could, because no-one knows who actually signed
> >Gnucash lists up to Nabble in the first place.
> >
> >Liz
> >_______________________________________________
> >gnucash-user mailing list
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> >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>
> Don Ireland
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "David T." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 15:07:18 -0400
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash-User
> Stan,
>
> It's true, I did write that. My point was more about *individuals*
> signed up for Nabble; if an individual were get their GnuCash-users fix
> directly from lists.gnucash.org, instead of getting it ad-ded up by the
> lesser provider Nabble, then that individual would not have the
> Nabble-rousing experiences that such users trot out on occasion (e.g.,
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2015-February/058530.html
> )
>
> On 7/6/2020 12:50 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
> >
> > On 2020-07-06 08:34, John Ralls wrote:
> >>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 3:22 AM, Liz <edodd at billiau.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 21:24:25 -0700
> >>> Stan Brown <the_stan_brown at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> I guess all that would recommend abandoning nabble altogether, and
> >>>>> drinking the gnucash Kool ade directly from lists.gnucash.org...
> >>>>> just saying.?.
> > I did not write that. I believe it was written by "D." but I could be
> > mistaken.
> >
> >>> I don't know how we could, because no-one knows who actually signed
> >>> Gnucash lists up to Nabble in the first place.
> >> Maybe a few DMCA takedown notices? After all, they're violating our
> copyright by republishing our works on this list without permission or
> recompense, and doing so for commercial purposes (they run ads on the
> website).
> >> P.S. Lessee, to make things more interesting:
> >> Copyright 2020 John Ralls, Fremont California. All rights reserved.
> >> Publication permission granted solely to lists.gnucash.org.
> > I think that ship sailed with Usenet. When Google took over Dejanews,
> > some of us put similar notices in our articles. Google ignored them,
> > used our articles in search results anyway.
> >
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
> To: gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 14:19:36 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash-User
> I would be curious how people are finding Nabble in the first place. I
> didn’t even know it existed until after using the list for some time and
> similar issues of confusion were posted.
>
> I know the wiki references it and how to avoid issues, but I seem to
> recall it stressed using the list directly as intended.
>
> Is there a case for improving that page to steer people to the list
> instead of Nabble?
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Jul 6, 2020 w28d188, at 2:07 PM, David T. via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
> >
> > Stan,
> >
> > It's true, I did write that. My point was more about *individuals*
> signed up for Nabble; if an individual were get their GnuCash-users fix
> directly from lists.gnucash.org, instead of getting it ad-ded up by the
> lesser provider Nabble, then that individual would not have the
> Nabble-rousing experiences that such users trot out on occasion (e.g.,
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2015-February/058530.html
> )
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Cousens <davidcousens at bigpond.com>
> To: "D." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Liz <edodd at billiau.net>, John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>,
> GnuCash-User <gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org>
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 08:09:59 +1000
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash-User
> David T,
>
> It is just a web interface to the mail listserver. I find it has some
> advantages in presentation of threaded posts
> particularly when looking back over archived material compared with my
> mail client. Someone has updated the signup
> instructions some time ago to point out that you have to be signed up to
> both the Nabble interface and the GnuCash
> mailing list and the the Nabble signup can now send an email to signup to
> the GnuCash mail listserver when you signup to
> Nabble. It otherwise operates independently of the gnucash mail
> listserver. It normally only creates a problem for the
> gnucash list when new users sign up without reading the instructions fully
> first.
>
> This appears to be some change in the Nabble access rules, possibly in a
> software update, which prevents registered
> users from creating new posts. The problem is whoever is administering it,
> if anyone, does not appear to be monitoring
> the emails to the administrator from users as I have now sent 5-10 over
> the last few weeks. Anyone can create a Nabble
> interface to any mailing list which seems an OK idea, until you get an
> orphan which no longer functions. There seems to
> be no way to contact whoever is running the servers which feed Nabble to
> point out that a particular mail listserver
> interface has been orphaned.
>
> I think it would probably be better to bring it into the fold so that the
> Gnucsh mailing list administrators have
> someone to contact when the occasional problem like this occurs
>
> Nabble is still OK for browsing and archive searching but not posting so
> for the moment we have no choice but to get our
> Kool ade direct from the source rather than from the Soda Stream. The
> downside for me is I have to remember to swap
> email signatures from my professional persona to my gnucash persona when I
> swap hats.
>
> David Cousens
>
> On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 20:23 -0400, D. wrote:
> > I guess all that would recommend abandoning nabble altogether, and
> drinking the gnucash Kool ade directly from
> > lists.gnucash.org... just saying.?.
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > From: David Cousens <davidcousens at bigpond.com>
> > Sent: Sun Jul 05 17:01:40 EDT 2020
> > To: Liz <edodd at billiau.net>, John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> > Cc: GnuCash-User <gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org>
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash-User
> >
> > Liz, Adrian,
> >
> > The Nabble interface seems to have a problem at the moment, I have been
> unable to post from it for a couple of weeks
> > now
> > and have had the same problem of no response to messages from whoever is
> administering it.
> >
> > David Cousens
> >
> > On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 20:08 +1000, Liz wrote:
> > > On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 07:54:56 -0700
> > > John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > On Jul 3, 2020, at 11:03 PM, Adrian Holbrook
> > > > > <megagrumpy at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been trying to post on the forum but for some reason am no
> > > > > longer allowed to post. I have sent a number of messages trying to
> > > > > get permission but with no response from the moderator.
> > >
> > > Sorry Adrian, but I am not stopping you from posting.
> > > I don't know where you have been sending messages requesting
> > > permission, but they haven't reached me as moderator.
> > >
> > > Were you sending from Nabble beforehand? We don't control what happens
> > > with Nabble. Posts made through Nabble come straight through if the
> > > writer is registered with the Gnucash mailing list involved, otherwise
> > > they sit in the queue for me to check.
> > > At the bottom of every email from the Gnucash server is the
> > > instructions on how to join.
> > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> > >
> > > Liz
> > > with Moderator hat in place.
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